Paul McManus | The Seven Great Prayers

September 16, 2009 | Comments Off


Dr. Kent:  Welcome back to Sound Authors. Today is a day where many folks all around the world are thinking about Iran and about Michael Jackson, about Farrah Fawcett, Ed MacMahon. People are thinking about their mortality and all sorts of serious things in their lives. Of course, Iran’s been in the news and people are thinking about all the folks over there, including that woman Netta, who was needlessly killed, and it’s been an interesting show so far. We’re talking about gospel music and inspirational books. Well, here’s another inspirational book. I have my second guest on the show, his name is Paul McManus. He and his wife wrote the book The 7 Great Prayers: For an Abundant Life and For a Lifetime of Hope and Blessings. Welcome to the show, Paul.

 

Paul McManus:  Hi Dr. Kent, hi guests.

 

Dr. Kent:  And tell me about this book. What are these 7 great prayers? 

 

Paul McManus:  Well, the book of The 7 Great Prayers came out of a lifetime experience. I’m a big reader, and same with my wife, and back around the dot com bust, around 2000, life was good, everything was well, and I happened to have been working for an internet company. A lot of people going through tough economic times now, and I think our family just happened to get through it a little bit first. So you know, the company I worked for went under, I lost my job, my wife was out of work at the time, I started a business, and then 911 happened, it was a bad time to start a business, and real quick we went through all our life savings and got to the point where we just couldn’t pay our mortgage any more, and the bill collectors were knocking at the door, and things were just in a really, really negative state. And Tracey and I one night, you know, we just couldn’t sleep, and we looked at each other and said you know what, we’ve got to change our thinking, we’ve got to change out life, and it starts with our thinking and our prayers. And we started to give thanks and started taking the focus off of negative to positive. And that’s where the 7 great prayers was born. The first great prayer was “Thank you, God.” And it was just really simple, but it put us in a state of gratitude. And though we were losing our house and we were having tag sales to get rid of our furniture, you know, we counted our blessings. We were high school sweethearts, through all this adversity we maintained a positive attitude. We had three beautiful kids, we had our health. And at that point things started to turn around just with a simple prayer of thanks. The 7 Great Prayers are non-denominational, they work for all faiths. I tend to have read all the great books out there, or as many as I could get my hands on, and I kind of boiled down the different religions and philosophies, and self development to what I call 7 Great Prayers. And I developed these with my wife Tracey. So it all has to do with affirmative prayer and saying positive thoughts and positive prayers.

 

Dr. Kent:  Well, and things are really rough for a lot of people right now, just like they were post 911, and in a sense the country isn’t quite as, let’s say it’s not quite as nationally depressed as we were after 911, that was a shocking event, but it’s a very similar time. What did you feel before, you know, when all of this bad stuff was happening. You know, you’re not quite Job, but you were going through some really hard times.

 

Paul McManus:  Yeah, we were definitely going through hard times. And you know, life was good, I had a nice house, we live in Connecticut, we did, we lost absolutely everything. And we lost it while, at a time when other people still had it. You know, life was good for many, they were taking their home equity loans, the economy was doing well, but here we weren’t. And my kids, we barely, we literally scrounged around through the seats for lunch money sometimes. But you know, we really got down to basics and found out what’s important. And what’s really important is love for one another, love for family. We’re very spiritual, we, and I say spiritual. We’re involved in the community, we help people, and from that I literally just, I created these 7 Great Prayers, and I can tell them to you really quick. They’re all short. We literally wrote them on an index card. And carrying this card around, things started, our life literally got better. Good things started happening. And when you start, with all the things you just talked about, some great people passed recently this week, everything that’s going on in Iran, you know, it’s really easy to get in a negative state, and there’s one thing Tracey and I found. Thinking negatively really gets you nowhere, and if you’re going to think and if you’re going to pray, pray positively. And that’s really changed our lives. A lot of great opportunities have presented themselves, and we’ve had the good fortune in our book we share a story of how we were having problems even keeping my daughter in college. And a lady that we’ve reached out to for years, she was lonely on the holidays, we used to have her over, just out of the kindness of our heart, cause she had no family. For a good decade we used to have her over for the holidays, and she became a member of our family. When she heard things were going bad she just called up one day and my wife, she said, “You know what, Tracey, I want to pay for your daughter’s, a year of your daughter’s education.” So you know, you gotta keep your antennas up and you gotta keep helping people. And you know, what do you know, there’s a life and humanity comes back and helps you.

 

Dr. Kent:  So I read in your bio that the first copy of this book was printed at Kinko’s. Tell me the story of writing this book.

 

Paul McManus:  Ok, so here we wrote this, you know, these simple prayers for ourselves, I did come from the internet world, I built up a simple web page, placed a little ad on Google, and through the power of the internet and the power of Google, people started typing the words prayers, they came to my web page, I gave them a prayer a day for seven days, each of the 7 Great Prayers, free of charge to people. People loved the prayers so much they asked Tracy and I to put our story in a book. We put it in a book, we printed it at Kinko’s, we did a hundred copies. They quickly sold out, then we did another hundred. And we kept doing them in lots of a hundred. And when we added it all up, we had shipped out 60,000 books out of Kinko’s to 163 countries, over 20 million people came and downloaded these prayers and visited our website, and it was quite an experience, you know. And I don’t have any training in ministry, and I consider my wife and I just regular people with a simple message, and it really resonated with people. It’s just amazing how we just, Kinko’s is, we’d go there every morning and they’d just, they’d laugh cause it was a 24 hours Kinko’s, and I’d just put in my order for the night before. And the power of the US Mail, we’d ship these books everywhere.

 

Dr. Kent:  You were certainly good friends with the folks at Kinko’s and USPS then.

 

Paul McManus:  Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. And then what we did is we created, had an idea to put the prayers, these affirmation prayers, you know, the first great prayer is “I love you, God.” The second great prayer is “Thank you, God.” And we put this prayers over baroque classical music. My wife and I recorded them ourselves, and put them on CDs. We kind of made our own bootleg CDs and shipped those out with the books as well, and people loved the CDs. And they’re all affirmations. The third great prayer is “God, you’re within me.” And then for each prayer we made other little affirmations, and they’re not all relating to God. Some are simple affirmations that say day by day in every way I’m getting better and better, you know. I maintain a positive mental attitude, you know. I feel happy, I feel blessed. And sometimes when people we’ve found that are going through either financial challenges, health issues, relationship problems, they even find it difficult to play, I mean to pray, and so with these CDs it’s as simple as pressing a button and hitting play. And people really, really resonated with these, what we call Prayer Power CDs.

 

Dr. Kent:  And what’s the most surprising, I guess contact you’ve had? What’s the most surprising thing you’ve seen since writing this book and touching so many people?

 

Paul McManus:  Ok, so you know, way back I was in the software business and all I dealt with was corporate people. Through the power of these emails and internet, we’ve had people, you know, again, you forget sometimes, you know, the breadth of the internet, but there are people that would go in Africa or in India and they couldn’t even afford a computer, but they could have a hotmail account or yahoo account. And I’d get emails from people that say, “Hey, just to let you know, I just hiked five miles to this Internet café to download my sixth great prayer. It’s given me great inspiration. I’ve printed it out, I’ve walked it back to my village, and shared it with my community.” So it’s really amazing how, you know, here we are in America, but touching lives with people back to Iran, Iran, or Iraq. You know, these Muslim countries that were downloading the prayers, Pakistan. So people from all around the world, I think that the thing that’s really struck Tracey and I, you know, we’re touching any priests downloading the prayers, pastors are, janitors are, executives are, people from all different faiths around the world. It’s been quite an exciting thing. It’s given Tracey and I a lot of purpose to ship these prayers to as many people as possible.

 

Dr. Kent:  And how has your life changed since that time?

 

Paul McManus:  Well, it’s changed a lot. Tracey and I, we really have our values in check, or at least we try really hard. We did lose our home, we now rent. We happen to be in the middle of Main Street in a beautiful Maine wood town, and we couldn’t be happier. So we have a major focus on the day. You know, we let go of any regrets of the past. We’ve let go of fear of the future, and we focus on the moment. And that’s really helped us out, to just start thinking. And it’s given us great purpose. Now I’ve been blessed with an opportunity to work for an employer who allows me to, during the course of the day, to do an interview like this. My wife is incredibly blessed. Tracy now has a job, our kids are doing well in college and life, and just a sense of purpose now. Just helping people, you know, be it helping at a spaghetti dinner, or helping someone cross the street, it’s just, it’s a blessing. What could be better that this, to have focus.

 

Dr. Kent:  So tell me, tell me about, I mean, the website is the7greatprayers.com, or people can Google it, of course, but it’s a great website, and tell me about these 21, The 21 Prayer Challenge, or 21 Day Prayer Challenge.

 

Paul McManus:  Sure, ok. So, as you said, we have a website called the7greatprayers, and people can go down there and give us their personal email and download the prayers. Our book’s available in book stores all across the country and Amazon, etc. Now, the 21 Day Challenge is a big part of, you know, we want to make, or encourage all the readers to pray the prayers for 21 days straight, because researchers show that it takes 21 days of a particular habit, be it a good habit or a bad habit, of consecutive activity to make it a lifelong habit. So we encourage people to, you know, no matter how tough things are and how much you may not believe in your personal relationship with a higher power, or in positive thinking, you know, just try it for 21 days. You know, there’s 365 days in the course of a year, try this for 21 days and then see what kind of an impact it has on your thinking, and your attitude and your life. And we’ve offered again this challenge through the Internet. People sign up and get the prayers. I think right now we’re over 750,000 people have taken this 21 day challenge worldwide. And we have testimonies where people have changed their lives financially, through relationships, health, just by just keeping it simple and keeping it positive. So the challenge is try the 7 Great Prayers for 21 days and see what it does for your life.

 

Dr. Kent:  And in clicking through to the final contact form there, of course on this beautiful website, the7greatprayers.com, there’s pictures of three dogs, and I assume your daughter. And I’m a huge dog lover. Do you still have dogs?

 

Paul McManus:  Absolutely. I have a blonde golden retriever, her name’s Billie, and then the other dog is a, oh there’s a, one of them’s our friend’s dog. And the other one is half golden retriever basset hound, his name is Jasper. I love taking walks with the dogs, and I encourage anyone, when you’re going through tough times, you know, pet a dog, hang out with a dog, talk about, you know, I don’t blame you for loving dogs. I mean, they have the healthiest attitude on life.

 

Dr. Kent:  Well, and the amazing thing about dogs, too, is especially, in my opinion, especially golden retrievers is they need nothing but love, and then they’ll love you back.

 

Paul McManus:  Exactly, yeah. They are the most, of all the dogs, my dogs are just such a love freak. We’ve always had golden retrievers, and you know, dogs are quick to forgive, you know. All they want is love, and they’ll just give it to you and it’s reciprocal. Love to take walks, and I encourage, it’s a big part of our book, we encourage people to get outside, take walks, communicate, be open and listen, listen to your spouse, your family, your friends, co-workers, or listen to nature and God. God is with us all, right down to the animals and the plants.

 

Dr. Kent:  Well, it’s been a real honor chatting with you. I think I’m inspired to do the 21 day challenge here, I think I might try it out, and I hope some other folks are, too. It’s a beautiful book and a beautiful concept, and keep doing this great stuff. What’s next on your plate?

 

Paul McManus:  We’re going to continue to get this message out, I guess to have a Chicken Soup for the Soul kind of. We’re working on The 7 Great Prayers for Women, The 7 Great Prayers for Finances, and The 7 Great Prayers for Peace and Happiness to help people with depression and stress. And women love these 7 Great Prayers, so Tracey’s creating a CD set. Oh, we’re coming up with one other project for cancer recovery where we have people that have recovered from cancer and they’re recording the prayers, affirmations, and we’re going to share that.

 

Dr. Kent:  Oh, wow.

 

Paul McManus:  So I think that’s really inspiring and helpful to people.

 

Dr. Kent:  Well, this is great. Everybody can check it out online again at the7greatprayers.com. It’s been my great honor to chat with Paul McManus, author of The 7 Great Prayers. Thank you so much.

 

Paul McManus:  Thank you, God bless you and all your listeners. Bye now.

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Candy Pfeifer | Getting it Right

September 15, 2009 | Comments Off


Dr. Kent:  Welcome to Sound Authors. There’s four guests on the show today, three authors and one musician, as always. Among the authors on the show are going to be Candy Pfeifer, the author of Getting It Right. And that’s about an author’s struggle to be in the spotlight. The second guest on the show is Paul and Tracey McManus, the authors of The 7 Great Prayers: For a Lifetime of Hope and Blessings. The third guest on the show is one of the contributors to the new novel Amplified, Cam King will be with us. And then John and James Abrams are the Abrams Brothers, they’re an incredible act. And they’re going to be with us at the end of the show with their unique brand of music. So without further ado, I’d like to speak with my first guest. She’s the author of Getting It Right, Candy Pfeifer. Welcome to the show.

 

Candy Pfeifer:  Thank you, Dr. Kent.

 

Dr. Kent:  Well, and tell me about this book a little bit. Give me a nutshell.

 

Candy Pfeifer:  In a nutshell, it’s a book about people with, that deal and struggle with insecurities rooted in fear. I’m of the belief that most insecurities that we deal with, low self esteem, feeling like failures, that all of that is rooted in fear. And I pretty strongly believe that that’s a spiritual issue that can be taken care of.

 

Dr. Kent:  Well, and one really interesting thing, when you talk about that very specifically, is the life of Michael Jackson. What are your thoughts about, here’s this very soft spoken guy that had all of these, all of these issues. Well, he was in the limelight since he was 3.

 

Candy Pfeifer:  Right. My belief on that is that people are not made to be worshipped, and when people are worshipped then ultimately they can’t really handle it. It’s a high that people love and enjoy, but then when that starts to go away, then it’s just like a drug that they can’t get enough of, and I just, for the most part as I listen to the biographies of people at that height of popularity, that it’s always the same story. Cause God’s made to be worshipped, not people, and we can’t handle it.

 

Dr. Kent:  That’s fascinating. That’s a really wonderful summary of it. Well, you’ve got an amazing family and you are well known for your music, and then of course for this book. Tell me about the importance these days of gospel music in the world. You know, most of us when we listen to the radio, we don’t hear the gospel music. I’m a big fan of bluegrass and I do hear gospel when I listen to the bluegrass channel. But talk about gospel music these days

 

Candy Pfeifer:  Well I think probably the most popular form of gospel music these days would be what is tagged praise and worship, which there are so many mega churches in our country right now, and they have incredible praise and worship bands. But yes, I feel like the music in itself is something that will literally lead us into the presence of God. There’s a story in the Old Testament that talks about when Saul had evil spirits that would mess with his mind he would call for a musician that played well. And that was David. And David had rehearsed, as he was tending sheep, and he was a very, very good and accomplished musician. And when he would come into Saul’s presence and play, the Bible says that those evil spirits would have to leave. And I feel like that’s what gospel music does.

 

Dr. Kent:  Yeah. And how about, so in your life story, how did you end up where you are today? Of course, you are a pastor’s kid, a PK as they call them. Talk about growing up.

 

Candy Pfeifer:  Well when I was growing up my family, yes, my dad was a pastor, and my family, we loved music. We were the kind of family that would sit on the porch with guitars and sing at dusk, and we had, there was a lot of music in our church and studded singers in our choir loft. It was guitar players and horn players and drums and the whole deal like that. So we grew up surrounded by a lot of music, and it just kind of developed. My life developed into what it is today. It’s what I always wanted to do. We were also very involved in sports, but the thing I wanted to do all of my life was to be able to play music, and to be able to play gospel music for a living, and I’ve been really blessed to be able to do that. It’s been wonderful. I don’t have any complaints at all.

 

Dr. Kent:  So now there’s this book, which is a devotional, and it’s called Getting It Right. And it’s about you, but it’s also a devotional. Talk about the book, how it’s been to write it, how it came about, how you came to writing it, and all of that.

 

Candy Pfeifer:  Ok. Well, I had journaled from 1992 to 2002. And at the end of that period I felt like I was growing, you know, maturing spiritually, and I looked back on those journal entries and I thought you know, those entries are very dark. That was a dark period of my life, when I didn’t seem to think straight in many instances. And so I just started to sit down and with each journal entry I would go to the Bible and try to find verses that would apply to that. And then after that I wrote a “for you” section, “For you today.” So what I did was, I just used those journal entries as life learning experiences, and what the Word says about those, and then what God had taught me about that now. And that’s kind of the way the book’s laid out and how it all came about. Cause I felt like that people, most people go through the same things, especially women, emotionally. We all seem to pretty much think the same way, and men as well.

 

Dr. Kent:  Now what kind of response have you gotten?

 

Candy Pfeifer:  Well, it’s been, it’s really been good. People that have read the book, they will email me or call me and talk about how they really feel like that things have been revealed to them in their life through the book that can help them to live a better life. More of a life of freedom and joy. So it’s, yeah, it’s been a good response, and I’m thankful.

 

Dr. Kent:  What did it teach you, cause that’s the other interesting thing. I mean most authors, especially with a book like this, it’s very personally revealing. How did you change in the writing and release of this book?

 

Candy Pfeifer:  Well, as I would read those journal entries, I would really see the truth of the matter. I know I keep referring back to the Bible, but that’s what I base my whole life on. And Satan is a great deceiver, and he tries to tear us down. The Word says he is out to kill, steal and destroy, and what I learned from it is a lot of what I’ve dealt with emotionally was just a lie. It was just all of hell itself trying to destroy me, and I learned a lot of truth about what our position is in Jesus Christ, and how we can live free of bondages. The bondage of fear, the bondage of low self esteem. It’s a prison. It’s a terrible, terrible mindset to be in, to feel like you’re a failure and nobody loves you and you have no self worth or any purpose in life. That’s just like a prison of our own building. And we can be free of that. And so, for me in my life it was just, it was a freeing experience, and how we can mature and grow up and see things the way they really are.

 

Dr. Kent:  And that’s kind of what all of the music that your family does, that’s what the music is about, that’s what the book is about, is overcoming that.

 

Candy Pfeifer:  Right. That’s right. We can live a good life, I mean, God has made available to us everything that he is. The Bible says that we have the mind of Christ, and that he’s give us everything that pertains to life and godliness. And I work on it every day, as long as I’m here on this earth and in this body I will have to continue to try to get it right. So every day I try to renew my mind in the truth of things, because I have not arrived, and I never will, but I’m a lot farther along right now than I was in 1992.

 

Dr. Kent:  Well, it’s been a real honor chatting with you, we could talk all day. The website for the Pfeifer’s music is www.pfeifers.com. What else can we find on there?

 

Candy Pfeifer:  All the events that we’re involved in. We do a cruise to Alaska with Dr. Charles Stanley, that’s coming up. We have a homecoming every year here in our hometown with a lot of great gospel music and artists and just all kinds of things like that. There are pictures, tons of pictures showing what we do and that sort of thing.

 

Dr. Kent:  Well and of course then there’s also the book, which is also called Getting It Right. Go out and pick up your copy. It’s a really touching memoir and a book that can help you get through it as well, it’s a devotional. So thank you so much for being on the show, Candy Pfeifer.

 

Candy Pfeifer:  Thank you, Dr. Kent.

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John Wareham | The President’s Therapist

September 7, 2009 | Comments Off


Dr. Kent:  Welcome back to Sound Authors. My next guest on the show is John Wareham. He’s the author of The President’s Therapist, and he’s a leadership psychologist, lecturer, writer and poet. Welcome to the show, John Wareham.

 

John Wareham:  Great, pleasure to be here. Thank you so much.

 

Dr. Kent:  Well tell me a little about this book. Incredible title, and surely intriguing subject. The President’s Therapist.

 

John Wareham:  The President’s Therapist, and The Secret Intervention to Treat the Alcoholism of George W. Bush is the full title. But yeah, on one level it’s a thriller where insurgents in the White retain a leadership psychologist to help George Bush overcome his addiction to alcohol and reverse the course of the Iraq war. But on a deeper level again, it is not just a thrilled, it is not merely a window into George Bush’s life, but it’s actually a life changer that instills the lifetime of work that I’ve had working with CEOs at one end of the social spectrum, and prison inmates at the other. And so, one review had said that it was a parable for leaders and followers, daughters and sons and wives, addicts and onlookers.

 

Dr. Kent:  Well, and it’s such a hot topic, you know, but until the last hundred days there was no more, I guess controversial figure in the world maybe than George W. Bush, and he’s still on the tip of all of our tongues. Why did you choose such a hot topic?

 

John Wareham:  Well, there were three reasons for that. First as a lifetime leadership coach, I could see that George Bush was the classic salesman over-promoted to CEO, and as such that he was in need of some serious help. But because I also work with a, as a substance abuse counselor, I was very quick to see that he was, when he began to slur his words and become (inaudible) and rigid, which are all signs of an alcoholic. Of course, he showed up to work with a black eye, as you recall, and he claimed that he fell off a couch. It seemed very clear, I thought, that he was desperately in need of help at that point. But then the third reason, which, the thing that actually got to me, I suppose more than anything else, was this whole torture issue. Because I became an American citizen because I believed in their ideals and I believed in their values, and we were the good guy. But suddenly we were not the good guys. Suddenly we were actually practicing torture. And it was hard for me to believe it. Now, I thought I should help, and I believe that if I could sit down with George Bush I would be able to show him what his blind spots were, as I’ve been able to do with other CEOs. But obviously I wasn’t going to be invited to the White House to help, and so I created a leadership psychologist and I sent him in to do this work for me, actually.

 

Dr. Kent:  Hmmm, that’s fascinating. And that’s you, I also come from a family of therapists, and I have to say that they all have their theories about President George Bush as well. And it’s such a fascinating thing because he wasn’t necessarily all that up front about his trials and troubles.

 

John Wareham:  No. The key to understanding him is to appreciate that he was effectively an abused child, actually. That he lived in a horror there as a child, everything seemed to be perfect. But in fact it wasn’t at all. He was emotionally abandoned by the father, he wasn’t ever there anyway. He was off with his mistress and all sorts of other women friends that he had, and he was pursuing his career. And he was left in the care of Barbara Bush, who although, I mean, she seems like a congenial individual, but in fact if you look a little closer, she was a very cold, callous and somewhat cruel individual. And so here’s George Bush as a small child having to deal with this, being accepted on one level, it would seem, and yet being rejected on another. And so he became an incredibly anxious person. And that’s why I would suggest that he had to drink the way that he did, and of course he was in drugs and everything, because it was his underlying anxiety.

 

Dr. Kent:  Well, and it’s also, in watching then President George Bush over 8 years, he did ease up a little bit towards the end. Now, at the beginning he just seemed like he didn’t fit at all. And actually at the very end he seemed very uncomfortable. He wanted to get out. But it’s almost like a heyday for a psychologist to look at this fellow’s career in office.

 

John Wareham:  Yes, well he was engaged, I mean here he is an anxious individual, right, who had been a serious alcoholic. And you give that up for religion, and then he’s engaged from that point on as, I guess he always was, in the classic Oedipal struggle to outperform his father. But that was not going to be a easy thing for him to do at all because the father was an authentic over-achiever. And he was a genuine hero and an athlete and a scholar. Whereas the son was infinitely less gifted, and try as he would, try as he did, he couldn’t ever, he couldn’t ever out-perform the old man. I mean, he came close some people would argue. But at the end of the day, I would say that he really brought the whole family name into disrepute. That’s how ultimately he was able to get even as it were. He was, he’s the classic person who destroys himself because he’s anxious, and he can see that he’s just unable to win at the end.

 

Dr. Kent:  Well and it’s so fascinating how, you know, you are to be applauded just for the concept of the book. What if you were to have the chance to sit down with the President and change his life and as a result of that change the course of world history? How could that therapist in the White House have changed the course of history?

 

John Wareham:  Well, I think he came very close in the book. If you read the book, he sits down with George Bush and is able to lead him to an understanding of the forces that compelled him to make the awful decisions that he did. And in order to bring a person to the light, in order to bring a person to an enlightenment, you can’t sit opposite of them and say, “Listen, the problem with you is that you just don’t think clearly, and you don’t see clearly.” I mean, you can’t do that. You have to lead the person to an understanding of the unconscious forces. And this is what Dr. Alter actually does with him. Now we all, we all have similar problems but, and that’s why the book was interesting. Other people that have actually read the book said that they saw themselves on the pages there because Bush doesn’t really understand why he would condone torture. I mean, he’s got no inkling really of why he went along with all that. But the answer to the question is that he was just treated cruelly when he was growing up. And there are some other forces at play as well, which I actually explain in the book. But bit by bit he gradually comes to see this. And if a person can genuinely see what their problems are, then they want to end them. And so this is where the book actually gets to, where he isn’t that keen to address the harm that he did. And unfortunately there are other forces that then come into play. I’m not sure whether you got to the end of the book, but the end of the book is a very satisfying thing, I think, and it will please everybody, too, whichever side of the aisle that you’re on. I think that if you had the ending, and I should say as well that Dr. Alter is in there to help George Bush, and so he treats him with understanding and care and empathy. And so this isn’t a book that seeks to destroy George Bush or to make fun of him, but actually to help him. I’ve got a feeling that he’s actually read the book. But anyway, that’s a whole other thing, and if he hasn’t, I wish he would.

 

Dr. Kent:  Well, and you know, in, I was so surprised, you know. George Bush was very humble when Barac Obama came into power, and he was very gracious it seemed on the outside, and then I was very surprised that when he got down to Texas he said, “Well, you know, I’m back home now, and I didn’t do anything wrong.” It was sort of this sort of regression almost to sort of a protected place. He’s such a fascinating character in the history of the United States, and I think he always will be. But talk about the actual George Bush, and do you think he did have therapy?

 

John Wareham:  No, I don’t think he did. He would have been much better off if he had. At this point, even though he may have done neither, but I think he feels an unbelievable amount of shame. Because again, he has wound up, as it were, lying in the gutter. I mean, Obama comes in and has clearly completely eclipsed him. He’s gone the other direction (inaudible). But what George Bush, at the end of it, his approval ratings were unbelievably low, and he has gone out in, I would say, disgrace. And I would think he’s got to, he’s got to learn to somehow deal with that and to begin with, he’s explaining it away and saying that history will judge. But I don’t think that that isn’t, I don’t think that that actually will wash with him. Outwardly, his style was that of the folksy cowboy. And people thought was fine. You know, he seemed like a folksy guy, and he seemed like a down home individual. But what you couldn’t quite see under that, there was a tremendous amount of anger and anxiety. And he provoked a war that he didn’t have to have. He could have ended the torture, but he didn’t. So if we go to treaty by the (inaudible) affairs, we can say well, outwardly he seems like a nice congenial individual who has got a (inaudible), especially the people. But that’s not at the end of the day what his actions revealed, right? At the end of the day he began a war we didn’t have to be in, he is responsible for the lives of 4,000 men and women who are dead now. And you can slice it any (inaudible). This is not a sort of legacy that you would wish for yourself at all. And if he hadn’t been there I don’t think these things would have ever have happened. Anyway, that’s what happened on his watch. And so he will…yes?

 

Dr. Kent:  He’s almost, he’s almost too good to be true for a novelist. It’s almost so, he’s already so much of a character that you have something really interesting to work with.

 

John Wareham:  Yes, (inaudible) to work with. Well, actually the psychoanalyst himself has got some issues of his own, which comes through in the book. And he’s dealing with the death of his own son through drugs. So he himself is very much attuned to George Bush’s problems and understanding of them. And that understanding that he brings makes it possible for George Bush to go along with the treatment that is offered. And he leads him to the point of the world is going to alter, and we see what happens then. Anyway, I don’t want to spell out the whole book, but as I say, it’s got a great ending, and I think the story was already one through, 72 hours it happens and it’s happening on a personal level for Bush, it’s also happening on a personal level for Dr. Alter, and it’s happening on a personal level for the reader also, cause I don’t think, people have said that you can’t read this book and not be altered yourself.

 

Dr. Kent:  Well, it’s certainly a, I certainly believe those statements because you’ve had a past of writing many different varieties of books, including the working with prisoners in becoming leaders, Secrets of a Corporate Headhunter.

 

John Wareham:  Right.

 

Dr. Kent:  And then also your other novel, Chancey On Top. How is this novel different for you in that fold?

 

John Wareham:  How is this one different? Well, you get a chance to, I mean, everybody would have liked to have sit opposite George Bush and to confront him, right, on the death of these young men. And so in this book, the reader gets the opportunity to do just that. I mean, he’s there, as it happens. And that was fun for me to do that. And I really, I guess the other thing about the book was I really didn’t know, I didn’t know how it would end. I mean, when you begin on a novel you know approximately what you’re up to. But to see how George Bush would respond to treatment. And again, everyone, if you’ve read the book has said it seems that this is exactly how he would behave. So by that he begins to see the light, he begins to understand his behavior, he begins to feel that, he begins to see the harm that he has done, he begins to wish to alter everything, and then it gets very exciting as well. I was also able to have a talk with Dick Chaney as well, which was sort of funny, and Carl Rove, so they were in the book. And also he has a section with Laura Bush, also. So it’s, you know, some underlying issues around, which nice people don’t really know. I mean, the fact that she, the fact that she killed her former boyfriend, you know, isn’t all that well known. I mean, it isn’t. Well, she did it, she ran the guy over in her car. I mean, she was never prosecuted, they said it was an accident, but again Dr. Alter’s left to, he’s left to speculate about that, and everyone else has been, too. So I think the family, the family history there is laid out. And again, it’s all very clear and then helping her to understand why she was attracted to a man who has got alcohol problems all his own. It makes for pretty interesting reading. But I was especially pleased at the way the endings have finally all come together (inaudible) check out the end. I mean (inaudible) novel, you want everything to come together at the end, you want the excitement to build, and it certainly did for me the whole way through. And it was only after I completed the book the first time that I thought this is excellent. I couldn’t believe that I did it. But then I had this other great idea, so I went back and I fiddled with that, I fiddled with the book, and at the end of the day I thought it was the best that I could do. I thought my books before were different, but of course I had a lot of fun doing this. It’s what every reader, it’s what every person in America would have loved to have done, which is to sit down and help George Bush understand the error of his ways and correct those errors. We would all love to have done that, right?

 

Dr. Kent:  Absolutely.

 

John Wareham:  To have a talk with him and say, “How could you ever condone torture,” and he says, “Well, it wasn’t,” and you say, “Give me a break.” Show it to him, show him clearly. Show that he cannot hide from it, right? And this is what happens in the book, but it’s done in a very pleasant way. So I mean, you’d like to confront him on that, you’d like to ask him about the deaths of the people that he killed, to get the opportunity to see how he responds when he’s out. The press, let’s be honest, the press never asked him a hard question ever, right?

 

Dr. Kent:  Right.

 

John Wareham:  They would ask him a question and then he would just go on at length over and over and over. Nobody ever seriously sat opposite of that man and said, “What the hell are you doing?” Right? Nobody ever did it. Right?

 

Dr. Kent:  Indeed.

 

John Wareham:  Nobody did it. Right. Right. And so he got away with that all that time. People have been much harder on Obama, who hasn’t done anything wrong yet, right?

 

Dr. Kent:  Indeed. Yeah, and I could sit and talk with you for hours about this book, and with Dr. Mark Alter, the man who actually had a chance to confront George Bush. The book is called The President’s Therapist, and The Secret Intervention to Treat the Alcoholism of George W. Bush, and wow, what a topic. And thank you so much for talking with me at length here.

 

John Wareham:  A great pleasure to be on the show, thank you so much for asking me.

 

Dr. Kent:  Yeah, and people can check out more at johnwareham.com, or ThePresident’sTherapist.com, do I have that right?

 

John Wareham:  Yes, right. Yes.

 

Dr. Kent:  And of course the book is available wherever books are sold.

 

John Wareham:  Everywhere but, you can also get it on Amazon as well, but it should be available in all bookstores as well, but if you have a problem, I mean for sure it’s on Amazon, it’s been on the bestseller list there ever since the day of Obama’s inauguration.

 

Dr. Kent:  I can imagine. And what’s your next project?

 

John Wareham:  I’ve got one, well actually I’ve got two, but I’m not going to talk about them because somehow if you do, the air goes out of it, but I’ve got something exciting that (inaudible). Oh, actually I’ve got some serious film interest in my earlier novel as well, called Chancey On Top. And I might also turn this, I might also turn this book into a (inaudible).

 

Dr. Kent:  I’d love to see The President’s Therapist as a film, too, so, but what an honor chatting with you. It’s John Wareham, and The President’s Therapist. You have a wonderful day.

 

John Wareham:  And you too, thank you so much.

 

Dr. Kent:  And my next guest on the show is the author Sarah Allen Benton, and she wrote Understanding the High Functioning Alcoholic: Professional Views and Personal Insights. And we’re going to talk with her in just a minute. She is a college licensed mental health counselor, and she’s got some great insights. And it’s great to talk about that right on the tail end of The President’s Therapist, and The Secret Intervention to Treat the Alcoholism of George W. Bush. What if John Wareham created a situation where a therapist actually went into the White House and had a chance to counsel the former President. So come on back, and we’re going to talk with Sarah Allen Benton, and that will be great.

 

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Eva Etzioni-Halevy | The Triumph of Deborah

September 6, 2009 | Comments Off


Dr. Kent:  Welcome to Sound Authors. My first guest will be Eva Etzioni-Halevy, and she’s the author of the novel The Triumph of Deborah. The second guest on the show will be John Wareham. He’s the author of The President’s Therapist, which is a fascinating book, and it’ll be fun to talk to him. And then we have Sarah Allen Benton, the author of Understanding the High Functioning Alcoholic: Professional Views and Personal Insights. It’ll be a great show today. And without further ado, I’d like to welcome Eva Etzioni-Halevy onto the show. She’s the author of the Triumph of Deborah. Welcome to the show.

 

Eva Etzioni-Halevy:  No, thank you very much. It’s nice to be on your show.

 

Dr. Kent:  So tell me a little about this book, The Triumph of Deborah.

 

Eva Etzioni-Halevy:  Well, it’s a story about one of the most special women in the Bible, the purpose of Deborah. She was like a sort of, like a national leader, chief justice, chief religious leader, or acting one, a very prominent woman. Maybe the most prominent woman in the Old Testament of the Bible. And this is about her and about her relationship with a warrior named Barak. Not Barac Obama, another Barak, and the novel is about, basically about their relationship and some other people who come in as well.

 

Dr. Kent:  Well, and now women in the Bible have been famously under-represented in society, and you’ve written these three books, The Song of Hannah, The Garden of Ruth, and The Triumph of Deborah. Talk about the importance of women in the Bible and of course then in your books.

 

Eva Etzioni-Halevy:  Well as you say, they have been sort of represented as side characters, unjustly, I think, and because they’re very special women. They are strong women and each woman is different from the other. Each woman has a very important goal and has a very complex emotional makeup. And in my novel, in my three novels actually, I try to push the women into the center of the stage, to turn the spotlight on them and to hand them a sort of loudspeaker so that we can hear their words loud and clear across the generations. This is really what my novels are about, apart from being entertaining and very readable and enjoyable novels.

 

Dr. Kent:  Well, now, when we look at The Triumph of Deborah, we’re looking at the front cover, and it’s a beautiful image of a strong woman. Is it a story about her relationships, is it a story about like you said, her sending off the warrior Barak, it’s a war story?

 

Eva Etzioni-Halevy:  Well it’s a little bit of a war story, but more importantly it’s a love story with a twisting plot, with a lot of suspense in it. It’s based on a very intriguing story in the Bible which really, I could hardly believe it when I saw it written. Let’s cast our minds back about 3,000 years ago to ancient Israel. Israel was in deep trouble because it was threatened with destruction by the Canaanites, and this national leader Deborah, she calls Barak to come to her from a different part of the country, and she says, “You have to go out to war so save our people from this act.” And here’s where the very intriguing part comes in. He says to her, and I quote, it’s in the Bible, “If you come with me, I will go. But if you don’t come with me, I will not go.” So it’s very strange. That set the wheels of my mind turning, and I said to myself, this is 3,000 years ago and the warfare is for man, not for women at that time. And so why did he want her with him in the battlefield? And she goes with him not only to the battlefield, but to his hometown. So why did he want her in his home? What was the true motive, the true reason that he wanted her with him? And yet she was a married woman with children. So then the next question of course was well, what would the husband have to say to that? What would any husband say if his wife went off to distant parts with a handsome young man and left him to do the babysitting? So this is really what passes me off, and this is what the novel is basically about, the relationship that developed while they were away. And when they returned, and some other women come in and also those who have defeated Canaanite’s king, coming as well, and their very complex relationship, love relationship, that develops between all those people.

 

Dr. Kent:  So what started you off in this series wanting to write these books based on the Bible, and then going deeper into these women’s lives?

 

Eva Etzioni-Halevy:  Well it so happens that at some space in my life, rather late I must say, I started to read the Bible and I was totally fascinated. I found it to be an amazing collection of books, something very different from what I had thought. I found it to be full of the most dramatic stories about, full of he most dramatic stories about people who lived thousands of years ago. And yet they’re so close to us, so similar to us in their hopes and their anxieties and their desires. And I was just really entranced by them, and particularly by the women. I started to identify with the women. I felt as if they were part of me, and I was part of them, and I just felt totally compelled to write about them.

 

Dr. Kent:  Well and your story is also very compelling as a woman, and as a role model. You got a PhD as well as having escaped from Europe many, many years ago. Tell me a little about how you came to writing.

 

Eva Etzioni-Halevy:  Well, by profession I’m really a sociologist, a Professor of Sociology, and now I’m a Professor of Math, just retired, and I’m a, when I had the time to write I started to do something completely different. I really consider myself a Biblical novelist, which is very unusual, and people sometimes think that it’s something very strange and very odd, which people don’t usually do. But I wanted to express myself in a different way, in a completely different area, to write. I’d written before, academic books, which were heavy and difficult to read, and I wanted to write something which is attractive and light reading, enjoyable reading, which people would not have to read for the course work, but would want to read for just for simple enjoyment.

 

Dr. Kent:  Right.

 

Eva Etzioni-Halevy:  And this is how I came to this area.

 

Dr. Kent:  Well, now how about coming from a family with two very strong feminists, my sister and my mother, many of their criticisms of the Bible are the sort of anti-woman sentiments that come out of the Bible What kind of, obviously this choosing of characters and lifting them up is extraordinary. What kind of other things have you confronted or run into in the Bible and re-reading it in this time in your life?

 

Eva Etzioni-Halevy:  Well I once said that the Bible is anti-women. It certainly describes society where women did not have many rights, women lived in a male dominated society, and that was considered natural at the time. Again, taking into account that it was so, so many years ago. But the women, it’s very an interesting paradox. The women of this class is very strong willed. Women who did not just sit around and bemoan their fate and say, “Oh, we don’t have any rights.” But they went out and empowered themselves. They didn’t have any power, they took power into their own hands and they achieved things, they shaped fate to do their bidding, and they were just incredibly strong, and they can, particularly Deborah, I think, and really be a role model, a shining inspiration for modern women.

 

Dr. Kent:  How specifically, would you say?

 

Eva Etzioni-Halevy:  Well she, if you have feminists in your family, you probably know the expression, she broke the glass ceiling.

 

Dr. Kent:  Yes, yes.

 

Eva Etzioni-Halevy:  As we call it today. You know, they say there’s a glass ceiling that women cannot break because they are women. And she broke the glass ceiling 3,000 years ago under difficult conditions. So of course not every modern woman wants to become a national leader, but I think what we women today can learn from Deborah is that we’re strong, we can do it, we can, whatever our area, whatever the walk of life in which we want to realize ourselves, we have this thanks to achieve what we want to achieve. She could, if she could do it so many years ago, under such difficult conditions, there’s no reason why we should not be able to do it today. So I think this is what we can learn from, particularly from Deborah, but also from other women in the Bible described in my other novels.

 

Dr. Kent:  Well, so the book is called The Triumph of Deborah, and the other books are The Garden of Ruth and The Song of Hannah. Are you working on another?

 

Eva Etzioni-Halevy:  I’m working on another one, it’s about a lady named Tamar. She’s the daughter of King David, and she suffered the incestuous rape of her brother. But I’m still struggling with this novel, so it’s still far from publication, but I’m certainly working hard on it, and I hope it’ll come out as good, as fascinating, a page turner, like my three written novels.

 

Dr. Kent:  Well, wonderful. It’s been such an honor speaking to you. I’ve been speaking to Eva Etzioni-Halevey, and her book is called The Triumph of Deborah, and…

 

Eva Etzioni-Halevy:  I just want to mention that the books and samples, Deborah and the other books, are available through bookshelves. If they’re not there they can be ordered and online, on Amazon.com and also on Barnes & Noble, particularly Amazon.com has got a very good price for The Triumph of Deborah, so I hope it will (inaudible).

 

Dr. Kent:  Absolutely. And there’s excerpts and more on Eva’s website at evaetzionihalevy.com.

 

Eva Etzioni-Halevy:  That’s right.

 

Dr. Kent:  It’s been an honor speaking to you.

 

Eva Etzioni-Halevy:  And a pleasure for me. Thank you very much.

 

Dr. Kent:  Yeah, and my next guess guest on the show is John Wareham, and he wrote a book called The President’s Therapist, and it’s a psychological thriller. We are going to be right back to speak to him. Come back for that.

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Janet Paschal, Famous Singer & Author of Treasures of the Snow

June 5, 2009 | Leave a Comment

Dr. Kent:  Welcome back to Sound Authors.  It’s my pleasure to have on the show the musician and author Janet Paschal.  Welcome to the show.

Janet Paschal:  Thank you very much, nice to talk with you.

Dr. Kent:  Well, I sure would like to listen to a couple tunes, I’ve got a couple in the queue.  But let’s talk for just one second before I do that.  Tell me a little about your latest record.

Janet Paschal:  Well, I’ve been doing what I do for a number of years, and over the years people have remembered songs from as far back as 30 years ago, and I’ve still continued to get mail and email about some of those older songs, so for this record project we went back and recaptured 12 of those most requested songs from as far back as 30 years ago and re-recorded them.  We kept the same, original arrangements and just updated the music and the technology of course, and we called it Treasure.

Dr. Kent:  I’d love to listen to a track from that, I’ve got the song Hide Me, Sweet Rock of Ages in the queue, so let’s listen to that.

Janet Paschal:  Okay.

Dr. Kent:  Actually, why don’t you tell me a little bit about that song before we listen.

Janet Paschal:  Ok, that song I recorded for the first time when I was singing with my first professional group.  I was 18 years old, I lived in North Carolina, I wanted to sing Christian music, and they were coming through my area, and they were looking for a soprano, and I auditioned and they hired me.  We recorded this song a couple years later, so it’s special to me for a number of reasons.  Because it’s a fun song, and because it was with my original group, but also, you know, a lot of times music and songs will take you back to a certain place in your life, and that’s just been another rewarding aspect of doing this CD, it recaptures those old tunes, and it reminds us of some of the places we were, and some of the experiences we had through those years.

Dr. Kent:  Wonderful.  So let’s listen to this song that will take us all the way back to the beginning, Hide Me, Sweet Rock of Ages.  Here it is.

(music)

Dr. Kent:  Wow, what a tune.

(laughter) It’s a fun song, it really is.

Dr. Kent:  It’s got to be fun, doing this kind of music.

Janet Paschal:  It really, really is, because it is feel good music.  It’s buoyant, and it lifts your spirits, and it has a positive message. It’s really a lot of fun, especially when you have a little history with it.

Dr. Kent:  You’ve been onstage for a lot of people in a lot of countries.  Tell us a little about that.

Janet Paschal:  Well, I have sung in almost every country.  Not every country, but certainly the majority of them, and it just astounds me that music seems to cross over language barriers, and facial expressions, and the actual chords and progressions of chords.  They translate in different languages, and I have always just sung in English, and many times the audience didn’t speak English, the majority of them.  But somehow they seem to have been communicated to, so it works.

Dr. Kent:  You are a unique musician on the show because you’re also an author.  So you’re a sound author and a sound author.  And your book is called Treasures of the Snow, and it looks very similar actually to the album Treasure, which is kind of neat.  But tell us about the importance of this book in your life.

Janet Paschal:  Well, it’s actually my second book, and I was diagnosed with breast cancer in 2005, and plowed through a year, about a year and a half of treatment.  I chronicled that journey, and of course I did newsletters and blogs and so many people requested that they get a copy of that, and was I going to publish it. So finally I was due for a new book.  So what I did is I worked this out so that the book is in three sections, and the first section deals with breast cancer, my plowing through that.  And then the other two sections are other stories from the road.  But the idea, and we did release the CD and book together, that’s the similar covers and the similar titles, but the idea is when Job was explaining to God about how faithful he had been, and explaining some of his (inaudible) to God, God just turned on him and asked where were you when I laid the foundations of the earth, and can you tell all the waters of the beaches, how far to come and no further? Do you know when a mountain gives birth? In other words he made Job realize how small he was.  But one of the things he asked him which intrigued me was, have you seen the treasures of the snow? And I had ton know on that a little bit, I didn’t quite understand it.  And then it occurred to me that snowflakes from a distance all look the same, but when you examine them closely, they’re very different, and they’re very unique.  So for me, that spoke to me in that the situations, the things that I will have to plow through, like breast cancer, you know, some of the rough places in life, if we just gnaw on those things and try to swallow them a little bit and understand what it means in the larger scheme of things, then there are real treasures to be had, there are wonderful life lessons to be learned, and great takeaways from those things.

Dr. Kent:  Well, and that’s such a hard thing to do when you’re going in and out of emergency rooms or clinics or hospitals, because those places have a horrible feel to them in some ways, and your family’s being dragged into it, and they’re all emotional, and…

Janet Paschal:  You know what was the strangest thing for me was following the signs to oncology for the first time.  I was treated at Duke Medical Center, and my husband and I were looking up at the ceiling following the signs to oncology, and it was just, it was so surreal, because my family didn’t have any history of cancer, and that was sort of a tough day for me, just following those signs.

Dr. Kent:  Yeah, and you are a very spiritual person no doubt.  Job is such a heavy book in the Bible that a lot of people like to skip over.  But when you’re going through times like that, it’s pretty brave to go into Job. Talk about the book of Job.

Janet Paschal:  Well, you know what I love about Job, a lot of times I go there and he does my venting for me.  Because a lot of times I’ll read in Job when he was saying, “Oh, God, why do the wicked prosper?” and a lot of times I sit and I read that and I go, “Yeah, yeah, I want to know the answer to that, too.”  And so it helps me just to sort of process whatever it is that I’m plowing through.  But you know, in the larger scheme of things we’re all creatures of this earth, and we’ll all have great days, and we’ll all have very painful days, and good times and bad times.  And so I think the crux of the matter is how we take the tough things in life, how we juggle those and balance them and how we incorporate all of that into our joys and our pleasures, and hopefully when we’ve figured it out, when it’s all said and done, then we have made good decisions and we have left the world a better place.

Dr. Kent:  Well absolutely. And certainly you have quite a list of accomplishments, and you’ve inspired a lot of people.  You’ve put out a ton of CD’s and probably all the way back to records.  Did you put out a record at the beginning, or was it a tape?

Janet Paschal:  Yes, absolutely.  My first solo project was an LP, and I still have people come up to me at concerts and want me to sign it.  (laughter)

Dr. Kent:  Well, I’ve got to say, I’m an iPod user, and an iPod lover, but there’s something about LP’s, the pictures on them, they’re so big and so tangible, and you put the needle down on them, there’s something about it.

Janet Paschal:  That’s exactly, and you know, the sound is sweeter too, I think.

Dr. Kent:  So you still have an LP player?

Janet Paschal:  Yes, I absolutely do.

Dr. Kent:  Well, it’s been such a pleasure speaking with Janet Paschal, she’s got a book Treasures of the Snow, and it’s really just a wonderful book to pick up, and such an inspiration to people, and for all of those like me who look at the book of Job with a little bit of fear, this is a good entrance into that.  And the album that goes with it called Treasure is really a great album, full of great energy.  So tell us where we can find out more about you.

Janet Paschal:  You can visit my website janetpaschal.com, or you can Google me, so Google will definitely get you there.

Dr. Kent:  Exactly.  Well, Janet Paschal has done so many wonderful things with her life.  Thank you so much for being on the show, and for helping so many people.

Janet Paschal:  It’s a pleasure talking to you. Thank you.

Dr. Kent:  Actually, before you leave, why don’t you say a couple words.  We’re going to go out with the tune We Shall Wear a Robe and Crown.  Do you have anything to say about that one?

Janet Paschal:  Ok, this is again, I recorded it back probably 30 years ago, but it was one of our, the group that I was in at the time, it was our big hit, so, and you know, it still is, it’s been recorded by 150 different people, but it is still a great song.

Dr. Kent:  Well thank you so much, and have a wonderful day.

Janet Paschal:  Thank you.  Bye.

Dr. Kent:  Now this song is from the album Treasure, and it’s called We Shall Wear a Robe and Crown.  Listen to this.

(music)

Dr. Kent:  And that was the tune We Shall Wear a Robe and Crown by Janet Paschal, off of her newest album Treasure.  Thank you so much to all my guests on the show today.  I had Mark David Gerson, I had Janet Paschal, I had Mark K. Updegrove, and at the beginning the wonderful children’s author Kathy Lasky, who wrote that wonderful biography of Charles Darwin.  Everybody have a safe week and pick up a great book.  I’ll talk to you on the flip side.

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