Peter Siegel | Radical Roots Music

October 2, 2009 | Comments Off

Dr. Kent: My next guest on the show is kind of hand-in-glove with similar kind of music: Peter Siegel has an incredible brand of music that he calls ‘Radical Roots’ music. Welcome to the show, Peter Siegel.

Peter Siegel: Thank you very much.

Dr. Kent: Good to talk to you again. I love your music. Give me a nutshell of how you came into this radical roots.

Peter Siegel: [Laughs] I kind of have some radical roots; I’ve got communist grandparents, and socialist uncles, and all sorts of stuff like that. I grew up in New York City area. My parents were very active in the Hudson River Sloop Clearwater, which kind of put me in touch with people like Pete Seeger and all the folk singers that hang around the old sloop on the Hudson River. So that was kind of my childhood. Although my grandfather was a radical, he was a classical violinist, and he wasn’t too fond of the fact that I was playing folk music, but [laughs], it was his radicalism, and his music sort of manifested itself in my folk music later on.

Dr. Kent: The only words more hated among conservatives than ‘liberal’ are of course ‘communist’ and ’socialist.’ We’re going into every realm on this show so far. What do you think about this madness happening these days?

Peter Siegel: [Laughs] Which madness? There’s so much madness.

Dr. Kent: The healthcare madness. It’s insane. My first guest, Roy Zimmerman, mentioned the fellow who was hanged with the ‘feds’ on his chest. It’s madness!

Peter Siegel: I know, it is madness. It’s just, I don’t know, there’s just so much rhetoric out there. I just feel like there’s so much of a lack of information that the powers that be are capitalizing on, or the right wing is capitalizing on. The one thing the left has never really done in this country is capitalize on ignorance the way that I think the right does right now. I think my personal way of dealing with that is to, not so much ‘tune out,’ but sort of bring it home a little bit more, and not think about what’s going on in the national and international level, but just sort of focus more on staying local, and just trying to sow as many seeds as I can as close to home as I can, which is probably one of the most radical ideas you can possibly have, is to stay home [laughs].

Dr. Kent: Absolutely. So I’m going to start off here, let’s talk about your song, ‘Boxed Up.’ Give me an intro for that.

Peter Siegel: Well, I wrote the song on the plane ride home from Chicago, and it was sort of a song originally just about my own feeling about being boxed in by my economic situation. Actually, my wife, who’s a writer, did a blog entry recently that - what did she say? - her entry was ‘Not Poor Enough.’ I feel like that’s been my position through most of my life. I’m a member of the middle class, but I’m not poor enough to sort of be eligible for any kind of health, and I’m not rich enough to really feel like I can do anything, but I’m sort of boxed in by the way society’s constructed right now. So that kind of led to writing this song.

Dr. Kent: Perfect song for this healthcare situation.

Peter Siegel: Exactly. It’s the perfect thing. The idea kind of expanded to how we’re boxed in by all of our own notions of ourselves. There’s just so many ways you can take a song that I feel like I need to write another song in the same theme, but just expand on it even more. The song was partially written by my wife as well. When I got home from that plane ride (she’s also an English teacher), she saw my laptop and when I wasn’t looking edited the song, so now she’s got credit for half the song as well. There it is: ‘Boxed In.’

Dr. Kent: Very nice. So let’s listen to ‘Boxed Up’ by Peter Siegel.

[Music]

Dr. Kent: Great tune from Peter Siegel, called ‘Boxed Up.’ Beautiful song, great sound to it. Thanks so much for that. What album’s that off of?

Peter Siegel: That’s off of an album called ‘Living in Rome.’ It just came out last year. ‘Living in Rome’s’ sort of the reference to the Empire, our own empire.

Dr. Kent: Indeed. Are you stewing in a whole new set of songs with all these new things happening?

Peter Siegel: I am, and I’m not. I’ve been steering away from a lot of the same direct political commentary that I used to write. I used to sort of furiously write down songs as I’d bubble over looking at the state of the world. These days, I take a little bit of time to sort of reflect on it, and maybe think of stories that just bring out the emotions of the moment instead of stating the way things are. I think, ‘Boxed Up’ is sort of a step in that direction. But I tend to sort of look at the people around me and write songs about what their stories are, and how that is a reflection of the way that things are in the world. I wouldn’t say it’s ‘easy,’ but I could probably sit down and write down a nice little protest song about our healthcare debacle for a protest happening tomorrow if I wanted to. I’ve actually come up with a couple of those here and there, but whenever I do that, I don’t feel like they’re worth recording. I feel like, that’s a nice little song for the moment, and we’ll just let that take it’s course and fade away with the moment.

Dr. Kent: So on that note, I do want to talk to you again in the future. I love your music, I love the concepts. As we wrap up here, I’m going to listen to ‘Polka Dot Bathing Suit.’ And of course we can check out Peter Siegel’s music on PeterSiegel.com, and there’s some great photos up there, and music and all the rest of that info. So tell me about that song, and then we’ll talk to you next time.

Peter Siegel: It’s my one attempt at a pop song. That’s all I can say. There’s nothing to it. I wrote it about my wife in her polka dot bathing suit next to our house and the green river where we often skinny dip. You know you need to write a song like that, and I did.

Dr. Kent: Awesome. ‘Polka Dot Bathing Suit,’ Peter Siegel. Thanks so much for being on the show.

Peter Siegel: Thanks so much for having me, I appreciate it.

Dr. Kent: We’ll talk to you the next time. Here we go: ‘Polka Dot Bathing Suit’ by Peter Siegel.

[Music]

Dr. Kent: That was a great tune by Peter Siegel. He told us that that was his attempt at writing a pop song. A great little tune, ‘Polka Dot Bathing Suit.’ He wrote about his wife’s bathing suit. Very touching and sweet.

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Roy Zimmerman | Satirical Singer and Songwriter

October 1, 2009 | Comments Off

Dr. Kent: Hello, everyone. It’s a beautiful day here in New York. I’m excited about this show’s new format. Every week’s going to be a little bit different. This week, I’m excited because there’s five music guests and one author. Authors of sound are featured on today’s show, and we always feature sound authors and authors of sound. My first guest on the show is Roy Zimmerman, and he’s going to tell us what’s so funny about war, poverty, ignorance, bigotry, neo-conservatism, homophobia, greed and fear. I’m excited about it. Welcome to the show, Roy.

Roy Zimmerman: Thanks very much, Kent.

Dr. Kent: Tell me about comedy and music, do they fit together?

Roy Zimmerman: Certainly not [laughs]. Man, if they don’t, I’m out of a career. I think I’m just sort of wired to equate the two.

Dr. Kent: So are you out of material during this new Obama administration, or are you just fueling off of all this craziness surrounding healthcare and all that?

Roy Zimmerman: Well, I wondered when Obama was elected, and nothing went wrong ever again, what I would write about. But, obviously there’s quite a bit to write about. Census workers being hanged, and, you know, right? There’s stuff that I can write about, definitely.

Dr. Kent: The comedy, the satire for you really does come out of these serious things. Imagine how awful it is in the country today that something like that could happen. He survived cancer too, right, and had a kid?

Roy Zimmerman: Oh yeah, he was apparently a model employee and so forth. It is amazing: this rise of this, if I may be so bold, sort of idiot nation, this kind of notion of America as a lot of lone individualists with no social connection whatsoever. So I’m putting together a new record called ‘Real America,’ where I talk a lot about what it is to be a real American.

Dr. Kent: Wow. Yes, it’s kind of a co-opted term, isn’t it, “American,” at some point?

Roy Zimmerman: That’s right. If you look at human history, you’ll realize that the first real Americans were actually Russians because there were people who migrated across the Bering Straight and came down. After they were Russians, they were Indians, quote, unquote [laughs]. So it wasn’t until Europeans arrived here that the real Americans started.

Dr. Kent: Have you written a song about ‘you lie’ yet?

Roy Zimmerman: About which now?

Dr. Kent: ‘You lie,’ that call out.

Roy Zimmerman: Yes, yes. Not about that incident in particular. That incident is indicative of a whole kind of mind set. Congress I think has become another Civil War reenactment.

Dr. Kent: It’s amazing.

Roy Zimmerman: Yes, I think some of those congressmen and senators are saving their confederate money.

Dr. Kent: Yes [laughs]. Well, it’s a pleasure chatting with Roy Zimmerman. He’s got a great website: RoyZimmerman.com. There’s some good comedic pictures on there, but there’s some real content as well. We’ve got a couple songs here, I’d like to play one that we’ve got. ‘Creation Science’ and ‘To Be a Liberal.’ Which one should we start with here?

Roy Zimmerman: Start with ‘Creation Science.’ This is a song that I’ve got up on You Tube, and it’s made something of a splash there.

Dr. Kent: Here we go, ‘Creation Science 101′ by Roy Zimmerman. Let’s listen to it, here we go. Yes, we’re having some technical difficulties. We’re not able to actually play that track. So, let me talk again to Roy while we’re trying to figure out what’s going on. Tell me what’s on that track; we’re having some technical difficulties playing it.

Roy Zimmerman: This song is about creationism, and teaching that in the public schools, which is what they want to do. I say, teach that. Teach that and the Norse-Odin myth, and the Karmic Wheel, and Scientologist version which states that the world was created on a bet between God and L. Ron Hubbard. Teach it all.

Dr. Kent: Creation and science are so often thought of as contradictions in terms, right? So creation science 101 [laughs].

Roy Zimmerman: Sure. You know the thing is that I wrote that song and then I come to find out there’s a guy named Kent Hovind down in Florida who actually teaches a class called Creation Science 101. That’s an example of humor that isn’t necessarily intentional.

Dr. Kent: Exactly. So let’s listen to the track, ‘Creation Science 101.’

[Music]

Dr. Kent: Well amen to that. That’s a great tune from Roy Zimmerman called ‘Creation Science 101.’ Great tune!

Roy Zimmerman: Thank you! An onslaught, isn’t it?

Dr. Kent: [Laughs] So, it’s been an honor chatting with Roy Zimmerman. We’re going to have to go, but on the way out, I want to play another song. Tell us about this song, ‘To Be a Liberal.’

Roy Zimmerman: ‘To Be a Liberal.’ I come from Marin County, which is sort of the bluest county in the bluest state of the Union, and it’s a lovely place to be, and we just pat each other on the back, and untie those macramé things that people did in the 70s, it’s wonderful. But I did want to get out across the country and bring a message of hope from the great Bay Area.

Dr. Kent: All right, well, it’s been an honor, and we hope to talk to you again.

Roy Zimmerman: Thanks, Dr. Kent!

Dr. Kent: All right, let’s listen to ‘To Be a Liberal,’ by Roy Zimmerman. Here we go.

[Music]

Dr. Kent: That was a great tune from Roy Zimmerman. Hysterical, for sure!

Posted by jamie | Filed Under Comedy, Concerts in Your Home, TRANSCRIPTS, Folk, MUSICIAN INTERVIEW, PODCAST

Wayne Gratz | Pianist

September 26, 2009 | Comments Off

Dr. Kent: Welcome back to Sound Authors. On this show, I talk to both Sound Authors and Authors of Sound. I’m especially excited about the show’s new relationship with Concerts in Your Home, which is a wonderful place online that helps to feature artists by creating house concerts around their music, all across the country. Some amazing artists do these house concerts. My guest on the show today is one of those amazing artists; his name is Wayne Gratz. Welcome to the show.

Wayne Gratz: Yes, hi, Kent, how are you?

Dr. Kent: Great. And am I pronouncing your last name correctly?

Wayne Gratz: You are.

Dr. Kent: Wonderful. We’re going to listen to a couple tracks from your album. Let’s talk first about one of the tracks, then we’ll listen to it. It’s called ‘Two Views.’

Wayne Gratz: Yes. That track is actually the title track from the album ‘Two Views,’ which is my latest album that just came out. Basically that album is kind of about my childhood, and how I was building all of these memories as a child, and how much different they look when you get older and look back on your childhood. A lot of those songs on that particular album are about some of my childhood memories. Like I said, ‘Two Views’ is the title track on the album.

Dr. Kent: When you’re composing these songs, how do you go about doing that?

Wayne Gratz: Most of the time, my songs start out with improvisations, with maybe a melody. I have a recording studio in my house, and I also have a piano in my house, so a lot of times I’ll get a melody and I’ll just turn the tape recorder on and I’ll do a lot of improvisation on a melody. That’s basically how I write my songs now a’days.

Dr. Kent: So let’s listen to ‘Two Views,’ from the album ‘Two Views.’ Then we’ll be back, and we’ll talk to Wayne in just a second again. Here we go.

Wayne Gratz: Awesome, thanks.

[Music]

Dr. Kent: What a beautiful track from Wayne Gratz, from his newest album called ‘Two Views,’ and that’s the title track. What a beautiful song there.

Wayne Gratz: Oh well, thank you, appreciate it.

Dr. Kent: You’ve got your recording studio in your own house for a lot of stuff, how do you go about recording the final version?

Wayne Gratz: What I do is I actually use Pro Tools. I think most musicians are familiar with that. There was a time when you had to go into a big studio and spend a lot of money. The technology now a’days is so good that you can have a home-studio and get really high quality CDs. Basically, my piano’s in my living room and I put some really good mikes on it, and I send it into the computer, and when I get a track that I really like, I hang onto it, and I do very, very little editing. That’s the thing with doing everything digitally: you have the option of editing things out, but I usually like to get one good take and just keep it. I don’t really like to edit a whole lot. That takes you through the whole process.

Dr. Kent: How about the sound? Do you have to do much reverb added to it, or do you just get that from the mikes?

Wayne Gratz: I add a little bit of reverb to it, things that are called “plug ins” now, that are actual virtual, on the computer. I use just a touch of reverb; I try not to use too much, so the ambient is just right on.

Dr. Kent: What was the process like when you were doing some of the Narada stuff, ten years ago plus? Did you go into the studio with them? How was that process different for you?

Wayne Gratz: First of all, the whole album was written on a demo, and then, the process of about six weeks of going somewhere, either to Portland or Milwaukee, so it was really a big process. A lot of times, a producer [was] involved, and an executive producer [was] involved. Then you’d have to go into the studio totally prepared; you couldn’t really waste a lot of time. Recording was so much different back then, in those days. It’s just so much more relaxed now to be able to record at home at your own leisure. When you write a song, you have an idea, and your piano’s right in front of you, and it can be instantly put on a CD. It’s just so much better now.

Dr. Kent: How’s your career changed from then ’till now? New age piano is something that kind of did pretty well in the 90s, or piano in general. Some people always love it. What do you do as a career musician to keep it going?

Wayne Gratz: I try to do as many concerts as I can in a year. I haven’t been doing that many. I try to write as often as possible, and spend time at the piano, and writing some new music. You’re right that the market has slowed down, no doubt. It seems I have more time on my hands to write, and that’s what I’m doing.

Dr. Kent: Tell me, just for a tiny little couple seconds, tell me about this Concerts in Your Home project. You are one of the members of that.

Wayne Gratz: Yes. Concerts in Your Home: I’ve done a couple of them, and both of them were just fantastic experiences. You get to meet a lot of people. You’re one-on-one with people, and it’s usually in a really nice, intimate atmosphere. It’s fantastic. I would like to do four of them a week [laughs].

Dr. Kent: Right. And that’s the thing about piano; I’ve been a couple times to Carnegie Hall and I’ve heard piano in there, and it’s not amplified. It sounds gorgeous in that hall. A piano in a parlor has a different sound, and there’s so many different possible sounds you can get out of this instrument. What kind of piano do you have at your house?

Wayne Gratz: I have a Yamaha C7.

Dr. Kent: Do you have people come and tweak it, and make it in tune all the time?

Wayne Gratz: Yes, I have a piano tuner technician who’s been my piano tuner technician for probably 15 years. I haven’t had the piano that long, but I’ve had other pianos before that one, and he’s always taken care of my pianos.

Dr. Kent: It’s a different sound you’re trying to get out of it than say Tom Waits, or something.

Wayne Gratz: Yes, I guess you could say that. A pop sounding piano’s probably a little bit brighter, a little crisper. Yes, it would probably be voiced a little bit different in Tom Waits’ studio than it would be in my studio.

Dr. Kent: Cool. You said that track ‘Two Views’ had to do with your childhood, and I know you were brought up in North Carolina.

Wayne Gratz: Actually, I was raised in Pennsylvania. I was born in North Carolina, and I was raised in Pennsylvania.

Dr. Kent: Were you raised in the city or the country?

Wayne Gratz: I was raised in suburbia.

Dr. Kent: Suburbia, nice. What kind of echoes of your childhood find themselves in your music. What kind of music were you listening to? Was it rock, pop, folk music, classical? What was it all?

Wayne Gratz: All of the above. When I was a teenager, I was listening to people like Guess and Pink Floyd. Probably my biggest influence was Emerson, Lake & Palmer: Keith Emerson. When I was younger than that I actually was playing guitar, I was listening to Grand Funk Railroad. A lot of classic rock I was listening to when I was a teenager. Before that, I took piano lessons for a while, so it was kind of simplified classical. I didn’t take piano for that long, but I did dabble in classical a little bit when I was younger.

Dr. Kent: What is the difference between classical piano, purely in technique? A lot of folks have had piano lessons as kids. What’s the difference between that and what’s classified as new age piano, and what you classify it as? What do you call your own piano playing?

Wayne Gratz: I describe it as pretty, sort of, folky, sometimes mellow, thought-provoking, and classical, more on the adagio side. A lot of classical music is really, really difficult to play, and my music’s pretty simple to play. I try to keep it as simple as possible. It’s just the way I write. That’s probably the way that would be.

Dr. Kent: It’s a lot of melody, right?

Wayne Gratz: Yes, it’s a lot about melody, and especially linear melodies. Nice chord voicings that are really pleasant to the ear, and sometimes they don’t go from chord to chord; sometimes you can let the chord ring, so people can think about the chord that they’re hearing. There’s some things that are different.

Dr. Kent: What kind of different experiences have you had in music? I know you’re part of a band as well, and you’ve dabbled in guitar. What else are you involved in?

Wayne Gratz: I play in a band that actually plays party music. We play everything from blues to jazz, to Led Zeppelin. Other things I do, I enjoy computers, I enjoy doing website design. Probably the computer I would have to say is my second; it’s actually what I went to school for.

Dr. Kent: Really? Where do you do website design?

Wayne Gratz: I maintain my website, and I’ve done a few others. It’s something that I’ve learned over the past year. I don’t do it a whole lot; I do it more for a hobby than I do for any kind of trying to make a living at it.

Dr. Kent: Cool, and we can check that out, of course. His website is www.waynegratz.com. And Concerts in Your Home: book a house concert; sounds like he likes them. Those are www.concertsinyourhome.com. You can book him and some other great folks on there. They’re kind of partners of ours now, and that’s fun. It’s been fun chatting with you about your music. Tell me what you’re working on next.

Wayne Gratz: I’m actually playing a concert next week, and right now I’m practicing for it.

Dr. Kent: Cool, and doing some of the solo stuff?

Wayne Gratz: Yes, we’re doing a concert in Walhalla, South Carolina in an auditorium up there; it’s with David Roth, and David Nevue. Currently, that’s what I’m working on.

Dr. Kent: Wonderful. Where can we find out more about your music? Obviously there’s your website.

Wayne Gratz: The website, and also, we sell CDs on the website. We sell some sheet music on the website, and if the music isn’t on the website, it’s downloadable at all the major Internet stores: iTunes, Amazon, Rhapsody, all the major stores. Even the Narada stuff is still on there. So, it’s really, really easy to get.

Dr. Kent: Very cool. It’s been a pleasure talking to you. Give me just a nutshell about this other song we’re going to listen to going out here, called ‘Waters Flowing Softly.’

Wayne Gratz: Yes, ‘Waters Flowing Softly’ is a song that I did. I did a soundtrack for a Thomas Kinkade DVD, and this song was inspired by one of his paintings.

Dr. Kent: Wonderful. So we’re going to listen to that going out, and go check out Wayne Gratz at www.waynegratz.com, or Narada, or on iTunes, or Concerts in Your Home, a whole bunch of places. It’s been a pleasure chatting with you.

Wayne Gratz: Kent, thank you very much.

Dr. Kent: All right, let’s listen to ‘Waters Flowing Softly,’ like he said, featured on a Thomas Kinkade DVD. You can go pick that up and listen to it firsthand. But here it is, and then we’ll talk to you again after the song’s over. ‘Waters Flowing Softly’ by Wayne Gratz.

[Music]

Dr. Kent: That’s a beautiful track from Wayne Gratz. His latest album is ‘Two Views.’ Go check him out online at www.waynegratz.com, or on www.concertsinyourhome.com, where you can actually book him for a house concert if he’s in your area. What a beautiful song, and you can hear that on Thomas Kinkade’s DVD as well. I hope you all have a wonderful week, and pick up a great book, and a great CD, and we’ll talk to you the next time. We’re actually going to be here once a day now, at 3 p.m., so tune in every day. We’re going to be recasting hundreds of old great shows we’ve had with people like Billy Collins, and all sorts of folks like that, so tune in once a day at 3 p.m., and then live again a week from now on Friday, and we’ll be talking to a bunch of new folks then. So pick up a great book, and be safe. We’ll talk to you soon.

Posted by jamie | Filed Under Concerts in Your Home, TRANSCRIPTS, Folk, Classical, MUSICIAN INTERVIEW

Kathryn Lasky | Daughters of the Sea

September 25, 2009 | Comments Off

Dr. Kent: Hello, and welcome to Sound Authors radio. We’ve been off the air for a little while this summer. It’s great to be finally back in the beautiful days of almost-autumn. About three days away from fall; I’m excited for that to roll around. I have two guests on the show today. I’ve got Kathryn Lasky, who’s the author of ‘Daughters of the Sea.’ It’s the first book in the series called ‘Hannah,’ and she’s a New York Times bestselling author. At the end of the show will be a fantastic musician. His name is Wayne Gratz, and he’s a wonderful solo pianist. We’re going to talk to him at the end of the show. But I’m excited at the very beginning to be speaking to a Newbery Honor winner, and bestselling author, Kathryn Lasky. Welcome to the show.

Kathryn Lasky: Oh, thanks! Glad to be back.

Dr. Kent: Well, tell me about this book, ‘Daughters of the Sea.’ It’s such a spooky cover. There’s a young lady, halfway into the sea. Tell me about this book.

Kathryn Lasky: Well, this book came to me a long time ago, and I’m not giving away anything when I say she is part mermaid. In other words, she’s not quite all human. But it’s not like ‘Little Mermaid,’ at all, although I totally admired the original story, by Hans Christian Anderson, and I love the Disney movie as much as anybody else, and watched it with my daughter when she was young. But I wanted to do something very different. So, first of all, it’s set in the late 19th century, and it’s quite dark. I wanted to avoid any of those, sort of, candy-colored, Disneyesque tones, so it’s set largely on the coast of Maine, and also in Boston. I think it’s a story that kids can relate to, particularly girls, because it’s really an identity quest in a way. So that’s what I can tell you.

Dr. Kent: Kids are more able to deal with dark topics these days. It seems like kids have a lot more difficulty than we do, a little bit. Actually, the other day, I was at a children’s movie, I believe, or a family movie. And the previews before those movies, gosh, they’re incredibly bombastic, and there’s guns and thunder, and it’s like they’re marketing to kids with this really dark stuff. So I guess it’s good that the book has some sort of dark overtones to it.

Kathryn Lasky: Yes, I don’t like to think of it as dark in terms of guns so much. There was a movie out six or seven months ago that didn’t have any guns or anything in it, that was incredibly dark. It was a children’s movie, and that was ‘Coraline.’

Dr. Kent: Right.

Kathryn Lasky: And I think the book’s brilliant, ‘Coraline,’ (I guess I should be plugging my own books), and I thought the movie was too. So there’s darkness and then there’s other kinds of darkness.

Dr. Kent: Right. You’ve got so many books. I remember, the last time I talked to you it was about ‘One Beetle Too Many,’ which is about Darwin, which is an amazing topic. But you have so many books. You’ve got nonfiction, you’ve got fiction, you’ve got books for small kids, for larger kids, and then for the largest kids of them all: for people like you and me. So, what is it like sitting down and then turning out a book like ‘Daughters of the Sea,’ which is very much aimed at that young market?

Kathryn Lasky: Well, for me it was wonderful. This was something I was longing to do for quite a while. There’s parts that you wouldn’t identify as being with the young market. I don’t like to think of them as “market,” I like to think of them as “readers.”

Dr. Kent: Right.

Kathryn Lasky: But, for example (and they might not get this, and I don’t even care if they don’t get it), but often when I describe this book to my friends (and I’m not trying to pat my own back, or anything like that, because I don’t think I measure up to this at all), but I say, “Imagine Edith Wharton doing mermaids.” Edith Wharton is one of my very favorite authors. One of my favorite books of hers, which I’ve read at least five times, is ‘The Age of Innocence.’ I love that elaborate, socially stratified world that she paints, or writes about: the ‘Gilded Age’ of New York. I tried to capture some of that in this book, and that was really fun for me. There is a darkness to that, in spite of it being the ‘Gilded Age,’ and there’s actually a kind of violence too, but it’s not obvious. I saw the movie, ‘The Age of Innocence,’ and Martin Scorsese directed it; I love the movie, it was one of those movies that I felt really lived up to the book. And I remember an interview where he said it was the most violent film he’d ever made. This is the guy who did ‘Raging Bull.’ I kind of tried to capture that sort of repressive atmosphere, and that kind of subtle violence in this book. I’m always plugging everyone else’s book: Edith Wharton’s and Martin Scorsese’s movies [laughs].

Dr. Kent: Well, I’ll help to plug your book, ‘Daughters of the Sea: Hannah.’ You know, as a child I always thought mermaids were such placid, sweet, and beautiful creatures, but it’s really a fascinating creature. It’s not something that’s necessarily as Disney-like, as you said at the beginning; it’s not quite as Disney-like as we think, the mermaid. What kind of research did you do on mermaids in preparing for this?

Kathryn Lasky: I read a lot of literature; there are a lot of mermaid websites where people, real crackpots actually, think they’ve seen mermaids. That wasn’t the kind of research that really helped me. See, the thing about ‘Daughters of the Sea’ and ‘Hannah’ and the next three books (because each of these is the three girls who are sisters, and separated at birth; I don’t want to give anything away). These are very powerful, young women, and powerful women were not exactly evident or omnipresent in that era, 1899, that I write about. As a matter of fact, women were said to be high strung, nervous, all this. Of course, all the diagnoses were made by men. They were sent for cures and all of that. Well, most of us would have been high strung and hysterical if we had to live in that world. What Hannah and her sisters represent is an alternate universe to that rigid, stratified, chauvinistic society. They are powerful, these girls, but they have to struggle to find it.

Dr. Kent: In creating characters like this, it’s so interesting that you bring up almost the political issue. Do you think of the stratified society when going into a book like this, or do the characters sort of paint their own picture?

Kathryn Lasky: No, I thought of that going into it, very much. First of all, that’s why I set it when I did, when things were a lot more rigid.

Boston, where I live, was very rigid, socially; they used to say, “The Lowells speak only to the Cabots, and the Cabots speak only to God.” It was that way until maybe 50 or 60 years ago. My father-in-law, he went to Harvard, but he was not allowed to keep his canoe in the Harvard boat house because he did not come from one of those families. So, I kind of know this world very well, and when I set out I wanted to make the world of the mermaids a real alternate reality, alternate universe, to that. So, that was something I went in knowing.

Dr. Kent: I was fascinated of course the last time about the Darwin book; what draws you about certain titles? Do you, to a certain extent, have to write to your publisher, or at this point do you just write the book that you feel like writing, and that you’re drawn to, and then it’ll find a buyer?

Kathryn Lasky: Well, I talk with my publisher. I don’t have to write the whole book. I had a lot of talks with the publisher, the late Craig Walker, who was a real mentor of mine at Scholastic, and he died two years ago. He was the one who really encouraged me to go darker. My other series is the Guardians of Ga’hoole (which has been really popular) about the fantasy world of owls. That’s for younger kids. He said, “No, I want this to be older,” and, as you say, “darker.” He said, “But Kathy, I don’t think you realize how dark I want this to be.” And I said, “Oh, wow! I can’t believe it.” So I was very excited by this. When he said “older,” I can deal really honestly about issues of emerging sexuality, and all that, and I don’t have to do it in a graphic way at all. I think it would be spoiled. You have to face these realities. This is the kind of reader I’m writing for, and she is often battling with this. It doesn’t matter whether it was 1899 or now; harder then, probably, than now, but still. So I hope it’ll have resonance, because I’ve tried to be very honest about that, but I don’t think you need to be super graphic about it. I don’t think there’s anything distasteful in that sense.

Dr. Kent: In what way do you picture your reader when writing for different age groups? How do you picture your readers?

Kathryn Lasky: Well, I don’t know whether I exactly picture them. It’s sort of going into myself and where was I when I was that age, and what was compelling me. I think that I get a sense of urgency about my writing, I guess you’d say. Because if I just, say, looked outward, to picture a reader, well it’s just sort of like an anonymous figure. I saw something in the New York Times this morning about how they are training airport security people to figure out who might be a terrorist getting on a plane or whatever, and they set this sort of mannequin dummy up there; I understand that they didn’t want to do any sort of ethnic stereotyping, racial stereotyping, anything like that, but it was this just sort of figure. And if I would try to picture a reader like that, mine too would be this sort of a-sexual, androgynous, no-age person [laughs]. So I have to kind of dive into myself and remember where I was at 14 or 15, or 7 or 8. So, it’s a projection of myself, I hate to say.

Dr. Kent: What is the difference for you between 14 and 7 or 8 in writing the books? I noticed, just for example, in ‘Daughters of the Sea,’ which is a gorgeous book by the way -

Kathryn Lasky: Oh I know, I just think it’s so beautiful.

Dr. Kent: I wish they would print adult books this way: the print is nice and big, the pages are beautiful, and you can actually read it. Whereas the books that I usually pick up are printed so small. You’re immediately drawn into the world; I remember when I used to read books just like this. How do you write to an age group? I still don’t understand. So, you put yourself into the mindset of where you were?

Kathryn Lasky: Yeah, I have my little inner 8-year-old, or inner 14-year old, all worked in this very old body of mine, which I’m not going to admit on the air how old. I just sort of consult with that. I remember how I felt, feelings of disenfranchisement, embarrassment, yearning, trying to figure out things. For all age groups, for any age group I wrote for, the world is really a confusing place. These children are trying to figure it out. I’m still trying to figure it out as an adult, but they don’t still admit that the world is a confusing place, they just kind of bulldoze ahead and pretend that it’s not. And maybe that’s good, but kids are more honest. I don’t know whether I’ve answered your question.

Dr. Kent: But let me go back to you as a 7- or 8-year old. Did you read kids’ books?

Kathryn Lasky: Oh, sure!

Dr. Kent: What kind of books do you remember?

Kathryn Lasky: Well, of course picture books. I remember a lot of fairy tales. I remember we had a volume, I think they were Chinese fairy tales, and I can still just picture the illustration. There was one called ‘Little Peachling.’ I wanted to change my name to Peachling Lasky. I loved the Wizard of Oz books; I read them all. I loved Peter Pan. You have to realize, when I was a kid, there weren’t wonderful people writing like Lois Lowry or S.E. Hinton. YA fiction, which is what this is called, ‘young adult fiction,’ hadn’t really quite been discovered yet, so you read maybe ‘Little Women,’ that kind of classic stuff; you read ‘Little House on the Prairie.’ I loved ‘Little House on the Prairie,’ all the Laura Ingalls Wilder books. That’s what I read. I do remember in the eighth grade (I came from a family of readers, so you’d see them all sitting around with books, not too much television at all), I started reading the books my parents were reading, and they were sort of mildly shocked when I was reading things like ‘The Naked and the Dead’ by Norman Mailer, which I adored, and I was only 13. I once had the great opportunity to meet him about a year or so before he died. I told him, “You know, I read ‘The Naked and the Dead’ when I was 13 years old” and he said, “You WHAT? Your parents must have been crazy!” Maybe, but I read it! I also remember reading ‘Exodus.’ Leon Uris’s books, I loved those.

Dr. Kent: Wow.

Kathryn Lasky: I loved WWII books.

Dr. Kent: I grew up reading in a very similar way; my parents would be shocked because of the books I would pick off their shelf. I think for some of the most voracious readers that is part of the experience, but the world has changed so much. I don’t know if my folks had allowed me to be in front of the television more hours, or to have a video game player, or, now a’days to text all day long. There is this Harry Potter craze, they’re buying your books, and they’re buying lots of people’s books. But how have things changed, what do you see?

Kathryn Lasky: Well, I’m not really sure. My kids are now in their late 20s and their late 30s, and they were really always voracious readers, and they watched TV more than I did. There is this whole mass/pop-culture thing, and I think that has impacted kids an awful lot. Because I think it gives them heroes who are not really heroes. I mean, Paris Hilton, what the hell has she ever done? Oh, I didn’t mean to say a swear word. Or Britney Spears? So pop culture has had an unfortunate impact on us. Maybe I’m getting off here, but these three events that have happened in the last ten days with the congressman, Joe Wilson, blurting out at the president; Serena Williams, that was really vile; and Kanye West. I think these false heroes have been so fortified by the press that they’re invulnerable, and you notice none of them has really apologized in what I would call a significant way. And yet, they are all over television. Kanye West, he was on the Jay Leno show the first night. I haven’t seen any of Serena’s endorsements being cut yet; she was fined $10,000.

Dr. Kent: Right, and the senator’s comment actually made his points known.

Kathryn Lasky: Exactly! People have been pouring money into his campaign. Now, they have been pouring money into the opponent’s campaign, but they’ve kind of drawn even. I find that really peculiar. So, I think, is it because of television? I don’t know, but there were magazines when I was around as a kid, and they didn’t lionize people like this.

Dr. Kent: One thing I like about a book so much is that, for example, I look at the cover of your book, with ‘Hannah’ and here’s this character, and I can, as a child, or as a young adult, page through that book and for a week or for a month, or for a couple days, depending on how quickly they read, they are connected to that character. Tthat’s one amazing thing about books that you don’t get with video and those kind of things.

Kathryn Lasky: Yes, the relationship with a character is a lot more intimate with a book because you are not provided with the images of the people. It’s much more of a collaborative experience between the reader and the author. You build that character in your mind, and that’s part of the fun of it. Even though this girl, whose absolutely beautiful, on the cover of ‘Daughters of the Sea,’ even though that’s her image there, you can have that in your mind, but you are going to start to build on that as the reader if you’re really a good reader. You’re going to see how she moves her head, or how her eyes glint, or something; you have to kind of fill that in as the reader. Now I help them of course through my writing, but it’s just so much more active on the part of the person, an immediate experience, if we can call a book that, then it would be on television where it’s just all spoon fed to you.

Dr. Kent: So, what other projects are you working on now? You’ve written so many books, I’ll bet you couldn’t even list them all.

Kathryn Lasky: No, I can’t, I’ve written a lot. I don’t like to talk about what I’m writing at the present ever. Because, like right now, I’m thinking, “Gees! I was so smart four months ago when I wrote that book,” and now I feel so dumb; I’m trying to get through these hurdles. I’ll only go so far as saying it’s a historical novel.

Dr. Kent: Great. That takes a totally different brain, it’s like, a marathon and a 1-mile or something. They’re completely different kinds of books, right?

Kathryn Lasky: Yes, but they’re all marathons in my mind [laughs]. They’re different; the problems, oddly enough, turn out being the same. For all of the books I do, people say, “Oh, fantasy, you can just make it up” or something, like with Guardians of Ga’hoole, or even mermaids. There’s an enormous amount of research I have to do. For ‘Daughters of the Sea,’ for ‘Hannah,’ she starts out as a scullery maid in a very wealthy Boston household. I had to do enormous research to learn about the household staff in that era. Part of my research, I have to admit, was rewatching ‘Upstairs Downstairs,’ one of my favorite public television shows ever. I got a hold of laundry manuals from that era. I had to find out what the salaries were for these people, all that kind of stuff. Luckily I enjoy research. It’s a lot of work.

Dr. Kent: Wow. What is your advice for up-and-coming writers? I know there’s something like 400,000 [books] published every year, and yet, I’ll bet a lot of the fiction writers aren’t doing the hard work behind some of this. How does an author go about doing the research?

Kathryn Lasky: I have to admit it really helps with the Internet now. The other thing I have to admit is, I live in Cambridge, Massachusetts; I live right next door to Harvard University, so I have the best libraries in the world at my disposal. For my owl books, the Guardians of Ga’hoole, although it’s a fantasy world of owls, I wanted to build these owls. And by the way, there will be a movie a year from now, Warner Brothers, and not only that: Zack Snyder is directing it, the guy from ‘The Watchmen.’ It is really neat. It’s totally cool. Anyhow, I wanted to make these owls as real as possible, even though they live in a fantasy world and they write poetry, and they fight with swords and stuff like that. I am exactly 1,500 feet from the Harvard ornithology lab. I have a guy over there. Actually, he’s coming to visit me later this afternoon. I got into all those labs, I learned about all sorts of things. I got to see the collection of Harvard owls, dead, but they did not go out and shoot them, I want to make that perfectly clear. They were mostly the product of road kill, and the Fish and Wildlife Department.

Dr. Kent: They collect them.

Kathryn Lasky: The Fish and Wildlife Department calls up universities and says, “Hey, do you want this snowy owl?” or whatever. And they say, “Sure!” and then they fix them up and they stuff them and stuff like that. Or they accidentally might get shot during hunting season, but this is a treasure trove for me. That’s one way I do research.

Dr. Kent: I’m excited to hear about the film coming out. In just looking at that series, it’s become a part of your identity, and a part of your life. It makes me think of people like J.R.R. Tolkien or C.S. Lewis. How do you feel when you write these books? Now you know these characters, now you know what their world is like, and how they interact with one-another. Is there a point where you get tired of it, or you’re taken over by it? Or do you just enjoy going back to that world when you write these books?

Kathryn Lasky: No I never get tired of it. I guess in a sense I am taken over by it, but I know when a series is finished. The owl series is finished. I don’t want to beat a series to death. It came to a logical conclusion. I go on, I find new things to do. I have an off-shoot from that series called ‘The Wolves of the Beyond’ that will be coming out; I think the books will be in the bookstores in December. So, life goes on. One of the things that I thought about when I first got into writing children’s books are there are certain authors, illustrators, who keep doing the same book over and over again. Not a whole lot, and I won’t mention any, but I just thought, what’s the point of that? If I ever make it as a children’s book author, the big attraction is in not pushing a time clock; you don’t exactly have a boss, and you get to get up every morning and reinvent the world, so why would you want to keep doing the same book? I don’t know.

Dr. Kent: So you get a rush off of being able to, sort of, recreate the world.

Kathryn Lasky: Yes! So I just don’t want to keep doing the same things. I want to try new things. That’s why I like doing nonfiction.

Dr. Kent: So how do you recreate a world using nonfiction? You sort of take the events and then shape them a little bit?

Kathryn Lasky: I think I just look at the world. My husband does the illustration for the nonfiction books; they’re photographs. We’re doing one now on spiders, it’s really neat. He was a National Geographic photographer.

Dr. Kent: You’re OK with him getting up and close with spiders?

Kathryn Lasky: I had to, too! I was not a big science buff when I was in school. It was taught in such a stupid way. Even the books, the nonfiction books back in my year, were really boring; they were like textbooks. I just took a whole different approach. It’s not that I have to manipulate the facts and the science. You said, ’shape’ them, but I know you didn’t mean ‘manipulate’ them. I just look at it in a different light from the way, perhaps, people who used to write nonfiction forty years ago did. First of all, I think that it was the texts were always so cut and dry. They’d say something like, ‘The wonderful world of asteroids.’ Well, as soon as they say, ‘The wonderful world of asteroids’ (and there were a lot of these books that said, ‘The fabulous world of volcanoes,’ or whatever), you already know that this person is not that enchanted with this world of asteroids or volcanoes, cause why do they have to blab about it in that way on the cover of the book? I want the kids to discover the fabulousness without me using an adjective like that. Also, in my nonfiction books, I don’t like to necessarily answer every question. I think that’s false, because I don’t know all the answers. To me, it’s much more successful if I can provoke the kid to raise questions than if I can answer questions.

Dr. Kent: Absolutely. I’d like to go back to the point when you talk[ed] about things that have been going on in the media, and you brought up Paris Hilton. What can books do, like ‘Daughters of the Sea?’ We’re all very grateful to the Harry Potter series for bringing kids back to books in some ways. But, why should we keep books on the shelves? Why should we keep having our kids read?

Kathryn Lasky: Reading makes us human. I think that’s the best answer. I’m quoting a critic that I just adore, George Steiner; he used to write a lot for ‘The New Yorker. Language is a human thing, and he said, “To read well is to take great risks.” It’s making ourselves vulnerable to new ideas; it’s connecting us in a way that media, television, that kind of stuff, can’t. Popular culture can’t. So, I think it’s allowing us to explore our humanity and reinforce it. I got a kind of disturbing letter today from a parent. I have this new book, a picture book for very young kids, and it’s called, ‘Two Bad Pilgrims.’ It’s about these two little boys who were on the Mayflower: Johnny and Francis Billington. They were pretty rotten kids, and so were their parents. I discovered them when I was writing a longer historical novel in the ‘Dear America’ series, about the Mayflower and all of that, which I did years ago. I found the Billington boys, and they were really bad. They almost blew up the Mayflower; they got bored, they started playing with matches in a cabin where all the gunpowder was stored, so you can imagine what that would have been like. Anyhow, they were caught. Then they went on and did other rotten things. They were rude and impious. Everybody thinks that the pilgrims were such goody-goods, but they weren’t. Some people did not come for religious reasons, they just came to start over, and the Billington family was the 17th century equivalent of a most dysfunctional family. I thought, these kids, they are really engaging; they’re naughty little pilgrims. So I did this book. And it’s funny, this guy writes this letter to me today and he’s appalled that he had to sit down and read this book to his kid, because I use such bad language. Now, I didn’t. I don’t consider when Johnny Billington tells somebody to “Shut up” [bad language], but that was what he said: “Shut up. Why would you ever use that word in a book?” Or, when he calls one of the pilgrims a stinky old geezer. He felt that I was doing a disservice, wait, I’ll find it here. “I became very uncomfortable reading to my 8-year old content like ’shut up,’ ‘no fair.’” Has this guy been around kids? Here’s another one, ’stupid old geezer pilgrims,’ or ‘if I have to mind these brats’ as one of the ladies says about these awful guys, and so on. “I had to tell my daughter how inappropriate the behavior and language was after each page.” Now these were the only things I said in this book. There are no curse words at all. “I understand the point you were trying to make, but couldn’t it have been done in a more tasteful manner? Don’t you think children are exposed to enough of this?”

Dr. Kent: Kids are exposed to much worse.

Kathryn Lasky: They are, and my first reaction is, I love this! I love that this guy sat down with his daughter and had a discussion about a book. So I’m not that mad at the guy, to tell you the truth. Now I’m not going to change what I did because of it, and I think he’s not a person who reads very much. I don’t think he knows about writing too much. It’s his right to think or say that it’s inappropriate, but it’s my right as a writer to practice the craft to the best of my ability. And that’s a big part of that.

Dr. Kent: You had a very important point which is it is so important that parents sit down with their children and talk to them. What a wonderful thing that is.

Kathryn Lasky: Yes, I wish more would do it. I think that this guy’s sort of a hero.

Dr. Kent: I’m looking at the cover of that book, ‘Two Bad Pilgrims,’ and it looks awfully fun to me. I would’ve loved to read that as a kid.

Kathryn Lasky: Yes, I think it is pretty fun.

Dr. Kent: As a kid who wasn’t necessarily the best of the kids, I was always looking for one of those books that spoke to me as one of the bad kids. It’s been such a pleasure talking with you, and I hope we do this again. You have so many fun books, I imagine every two or three weeks we could talk about a brand new book, right?

Kathryn Lasky: Sure! I’ll do it. No, not every two or three weeks, I don’t have them coming that fast.

Dr. Kent: Not quite that quick, but it’s an exciting array. ‘Two Bad Pilgrims’ is available, that just came out. And of course, at the beginning, we were talking about ‘Daughters of the Sea: Hannah,’ and that’s just the first of how many? Three?

Kathryn Lasky: There will be four in all.

Dr. Kent: Four of them, and it’s a beautiful, beautiful book, just to pick it up. Do give it to your kids. Looks like a gorgeous book, and it reads the same way. It’s been such a pleasure talking to you.

Kathryn Lasky: OK! Good talking to you too, thanks so much.

Dr. Kent: And I’ll look forward to the next time.

Kathryn Lasky: OK! Bye bye.

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John Abrams | The Abrams Brothers, Viva La Vida

September 19, 2009 | Comments Off

Dr. Kent: What a great tune, Viva La Vida. Of course, it’s a Cold Play song, and what a version of it, it’s awesome. And I’ve heard that it’s going to be, or already has been, on CMT, and I’m welcoming to the show John from the Abrams Brothers. Welcome to the show.

John Abrams: Hey there, how are you guys?

Dr. Kent: Pretty good. So tell me, tell me about this song, Viva La Vida. I have not heard that before, and it’s pretty exciting. This was on CMT?

John Abrams: It’s going to be coming out on CMT this Monday in the United States, and this coming Saturday in Canada, and it’s a song by Cold Play that was released by those guys. They’re a British rock band. It was released last summer by Cold Play, and we’re certainly big Cold Play fans. So we decided to do a country rock version of the song and put it on the Internet last summer, and stirred up a whole bunch of buzz with CMT and a whole bunch of other people, and we’re really excited about it because it’s a great song. We love to sing it and play it.

Dr. Kent: And the sound is absolutely awesome. It’s driven by a banjo in it. Who’s playing the banjo?

John Abrams: Oh, that’s Brandon Green. He actually, he played banjo with us last year and he’s a fantastic musician, and he recorded the part with us when we did the single last summer.

Dr. Kent: That’s wonderful, and tell me about this, the core of this group, of course, you’re the Abrams Brothers, and a cousin. Are you guys all still together then, in the group?

John Abrams: Yeah, yeah. James and I are the brothers, he’s 16 and I’m 18 and we grew up playing bluegrass music, and we certainly love that. That’s our accord, and also gospel music, we have a lot of reaching gospel. But this is actually a very, as you can probably already tell, it’s a very family oriented thing. We’re actually the fourth generation playing roots and gospel music in our family, on the road actually, the fourth generation on the road. So that’s a pretty exciting tradition to carry on. And we’re joined by our cousin Eli on the bass and our family travels with us on the road. Our grandparents, they help drive the bus and cook and clean and cut our hair and run the merchandise table, and we have a great thing going, we’re really excited about it.

Dr. Kent: So they must be all pretty pumped that this thing is happening on CMT on Monday?

John Abrams: Yeah, it’s really exciting. We’re just really glad that we can bring our roots and bluegrass music and take it into a contemporary setting and have it recognized by other people in the industry, and also the fans and people who listen to it. They’re, they seem to be relating to it, and we really appreciate our generation latching onto a great tradition, but just kind of packaged in a newer way.

Dr. Kent: So tell me about the three of you. Who does what?

John Abrams: Well I’m John Abrams, I’m 18, I play, I play acoustic guitar and electric guitar and also I do a lot of the lead vocals, and some harmony singing. My brother James plays a lot of fiddle, a little bit of guitar, and he’s a 16 year old, and he does a lot of the singing as well And then we’re also turned by our cousin Elijah, he’s 18 and he plays the electric and upright bass. And we have a drummer. Ethan Myers, and a banjo player whose name is Nick Picianini, and that’s pretty much everyone that goes out. We’re also joined by our producer, Chris Brown. He produced the album Blue on Brown that we put out a little over a year ago. He plays keys with us on the road sometimes. So we kind of have a, I guess you could say a bluegrass, rock, country group that goes out together, and that creates the Abrams Brothers style.

Dr. Kent: And I wanted to play a song here, if you want to wait on the line, because the album Blue on Brown was what drew me to you in the first place. I’m a huge Arlo Guthrie fan, as you guys obviously are as well. This is an album of Dylan and Arlo Guthrie. Tell me about that album, Blue on Brown.

John Abrams: Yeah, we’re just, we’re really excited to be able to record a whole bunch of great material, great songwriting material. Both of them are fantastic writers. And we originally were just going to do a whole bunch of bluegrass versions of their songs, but two years ago now, a little over two years ago we met our producer Chris Brown, and he produced the Mild Man Tribute To Steve Goodman album, actually, for the Goodman family. And of course the song City of New Orleans is on that. We recorded the song by Steve Goodman, City of New Orleans, which certainly was an Arlo Guthrie hit as well. And we met Chris because of our mutual affection for the song, and he lives just near where we live, on Molt lsland, just off of Kingston, Ontario, which is our home town. And we connected with him, and ever since we’ve been making music together. So that’s kind of the story of Blue on Brown album, but all those are great songs, and we’re really excited to be able to perform them and carry them on in the Abrams Brothers way for a generation that might not have been exposed to them.

Dr. Kent: Well, if you want to hang on the line, I’d love to listen to the whole track of City of New Orleans. It’s about five minutes, so you could probably go and have a snack and then brush your teeth and come back, but we’re all excited to listen to City of New Orleans, where it all started with this album Blue on Brown. Here we go.

(music)

Dr. Kent: That’s a great tune, it’s called City of New Orleans. Of course, that’s a famous tune by Steve Goodman that was covered first by Arlo Guthrie, and this is a version that was recorded by the Abrams Brothers. The label is UFO Music, United For Opportunity is the name of the label, and it is their work that they did with all sorts of amazing musicians. And Arlo Guthrie, who most famously said that, “They’re too young to sound that good,” and we’re going to get John back on the line, John Abrams, and that’ll take just a second for that. And then we’re going to listen to another track from the album, which will be called Gotta Serve Somebody. The album is, of course, both Dylan songs and Arlo Guthrie songs, and the album’s called Blue on Brown. We’re having a little bit of technical difficulties, hold on just one minute. And do I have John on the line?

John Abrams: Hello? I’m here.

Dr. Kent: Hey there, John, how are you doing?

John Abrams: Good, how are you guys?

Dr. Kent: We lost you for a second there, that’s our fault.

John Abrams: Hey, yeah.

Dr. Kent: But we listened to the whole track of the City of New Orleans. Great tune. Not the easiest song to play the first time you pick it up.

John Abrams: Sure, there’s a lot of, there’s a lot of chords in that one, but we wanted to learn it exactly how, really, we listened to Arlo Guthrie’s version cause of course it was our tribute to Arlo Guthrie, but you know, it’s just, it’s one of those timeless songs, one of those memorable songs. It doesn’t matter which generation listens to it, as long as you bring it into that new generation in context. This is just one of those timeless songs, and I just, I really think a timeless song the way it’s written, the way the melody is, is a timeless song (inaudible) for years and years.

Dr. Kent: How do you compare these Bob Dylan and Arlo Guthrie songs to, you know, Cold Play? Do you guys just pick up on great music and say, “Let’s try this one?”

John Abrams: I’m sorry?

Dr. Kent: Do you just pick up on any kind of music and say, “Hey guys, let’s try this one,” like the, you know you played the Cold Play song at the beginning, Viva La Vida. These are Dylan songs and Arlo Guthrie songs. What won’t you guys try?

John Abrams: Oh yeah, no, that’s a great question. We like to try all kinds of different styles of music and different songs from different genres. And to us it’s all about taking a song and the writing and what was done before and bringing it into our sound, in the Abrams Brother’s music. And that’s certainly that combination of bluegrass and the contemporary styles, like rock and country. So yeah, the Viva La Vida song, the City of New Orleans song, these are less covered than us doing our own version of the song that’s already been (inaudible). Actually, the Viva La Vida song didn’t become a hit on our album of all original material, but we’re working on that now, songs that we’ve (inaudible). So we’re excited about that conversation.

Dr. Kent: That is fun, yeah, and there’s nothing better than kicking it off with a CMT appearance, that’s on Monday. So folks should check out on CMT and see if they can see the Abrams Brothers. Otherwise, you know, there’s a lot of places people can find out about you. Where can folks go online?

John Abrams: Yeah, you can go on www.abramsbrothers.com and we’re also on Facebook, MySpace, I think on Twitter now, yeah, I know we’re on Twitter now, and YouTube, and we like to update those all the time and try to keep in contact with everybody. So yeah, and eventually it will be up, the brand new website will be up in the next couple of days with the base for video and we’re really excited about that. So you can check us out again at www.theabramsbrothers.com.

Dr. Kent: And how about, what’s your take, I mean, it was a horrible day yesterday for music. You know, I grew up hearing Michael Jackson. What your take on the passing of the King of op?

John Abrams: Yeah, I mean, you know, I haven’t been watching the news a whole lot at all, but just, I’m hearing about his passing last night. I mean, he had incredible talent, and it’s a real loss because he was a, left a legacy of fantastic song, memorial songs and good music. So yeah, he will definitely be missed around the world, yeah I think we’re all pretty sad.

Dr. Kent: Well, it’s been a pleasure speaking to John Abrams, the Abrams Brothers on a ride, a ride to the top, I think. They’ve got a great sound and some amazing tunes, I can’t wait to hear their new album with original tunes. The sound on Viva La Vida is amazing, and we’re going to listen going out to another song from their Blue on Brown album. It’s called Gotta Serve Somebody, of course, Bob Dylan song. And than you so much for chatting with me, John.

John Abrams: Thank you so much. It’s been a real pleasure, and hope you enjoyed the songs.

Dr. Kent: And everybody tune in on CMT on Monday, and see if they can find the Abrams Brothers.

You have a great day.

Dr. Kent: You too. Now let’s listen to Gotta Serve Somebody by the Abrams Brothers. Here it is.

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